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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:05 AM
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R/W:‘There Should Be A Separate Line To Scrutinize Anybody With The Name Abdul'
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 09:08 AM by babylonsister
Right Wing Renews Calls For Profiling: ‘There Should Be A Separate Line To Scrutinize Anybody With The Name Abdul’


The right wing’s predictable policy prescription in the aftermath of any terror incident is to impose greater ethnic profiling of Muslims. For instance, following the Ft. Hood shooting, Sarah Palin said, “profile away.” After six imams were removed from a plane in Minnesota in 2006, Ann Coulter justified profiling Muslims by arguing that it’s just like “profiling the Klan.” That same year, after British authorities revealed a terrorist plot to blow up planes headed to the U.S., right-wing radio host Mike Gallagher said, “It’s time to have a Muslims check-point line” at airports.

They’re at it again. In the wake of the failed terrorist attempt aboard a Northwest airlines flight on Christmas Day, the right wing is renewing its pleas for more profiling of Muslims:

Radio host Mike Gallagher: “There should be a separate line to scrutinize anybody with the name Abdul or Ahmed or Mohammed.” (Note: Those are some of the most common names in the world.)

Rep. Peter King (R-NY): “100 percent of the Islamic terrorists are Muslim, and that is our main enemy today. So why we should not be profiling people because of their religion?”

Terrorism pundit Steven Emerson: “Remember, there have been so many complaints about quote, profiling, by the quote, Islamic civil rights groups, that they stopped basically profiling. And that basically led to not putting this guy onto the terrorist watch list.“


Unsurprisingly, Fox News has served as the platform for right-wing voices calling for more profiling. Watch a compilation/more at link~

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/12/28/right-wing-ethnic-profiling/

Youtube here (can't post it for some reason)
:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lgxYiJKsXg&feature=player_embedded
Right Wing Calls For More Profiling Of Muslims
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:07 AM
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1. They are stark raving mad.
And this, I cannot resist:

LEAVE PAULA ABDUL ALONE!1!!!!

:hide:

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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:09 AM
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2. LOL!
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tmyers09 Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:20 AM
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8. Not to mention poor Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:25 AM
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9. and Muhammed Ali.
I know he floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee, but he's certainly no terrorist.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:11 AM
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3. I agree. Where is Paula now that she isn't on American Idol?
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 09:15 AM by mmonk
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:13 AM
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4. As usual, the right wing is counterfactual. This guy WAS on the terrorist watch list.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:14 AM
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5. So by that logic, we should also keep Christians away from abortion doctors
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:14 AM
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6. It may be the R/W wanting it
But there are many on the left who will silently support it as well. I believe that even some here on DU are very quietly applauding the idea of profiling.

Especially those here who would look forward to a police state as long as they could feel safe.

Benjamin Franklin said it best:

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.


How do we ask men and women to fight and die for freedom for others when the US government seems to work toward curtailing freedom in this country?
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:16 AM
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7. did Peter king really say
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 09:25 AM by sabbat hunter
100 percent of the Islamic terrorists are Muslim




Well, duh Pete! If you are Islamic, then of course your are a muslim. I really haven't ever heard of any Islamic Jews, Islamic Christians, Islamic Buddists's etc etc.

:eyes:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:29 AM
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10. Peter King should have watched NGO last night
when they showed Ayran nation and the KKK - TSA would have to add Bubba and John Boy.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:31 AM
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11. I have real trouble with this.
Most pit bulls are harmless (I guess), but whenever you hear about a dog mauling someone, it's almost always a pit bull. If I see a pit bull coming toward me, I'm going to cross the street just to be on the safe side. Is this merely a logical precaution, or am I unfairly "profiling" all of the dogs I see since I only avoid pit bulls?

I hate where the profilers' arguments end up, but I can't quite see from a purely logical point of view why what they are saying is 100% crazy and wrong. Somebody help me!

:shrug:
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Skelly Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:25 AM
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16. I understand what you are saying
It IS hard to have this discussion without someone calling you names. Yet, I am sure many wrestle with this all of the time. It seems to be a 'gut' reaction to put the bad guys all in the same box. However, in doing so, you are going to have many more good guys in there with them too.
After 9/11, I understood the detainment camps of Japanese Americans after Pearl Harbor. I grew up learning about them and never understood how we as a nation could have done something so horrible. As I sat there watching the news on 9/11 and 9/12, I finally understood the feeling. Thank god we sometimes do learn from history so we do not repeat the same mistakes.
I also have another gut reaction to profiling. While I understand the desire to do so (and sometimes feel the same) I also feel, instinctively almost, that this is the wrong way to go. It is the START of a very dangerous road. Many atrocities in the world's history began with profiling. Someday, those being profiled may be us.
In my opinion, I feel we are being led to fear. The actual threat to our safety is lower than what we are sometimes led to believe. As of yet, I am not willing to give up all of my freedoms to 'feel' a little safer.
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uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:45 AM
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17. you're more likely to die crossing that street to avoid the dog.
and more likely to die at the hands of an American, even a well-meaning one, than by a Muslim Jihadist.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:33 AM
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12. Idiots all. Danger to everyone.
Right-wingers, of course
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:39 AM
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13. First we can start with
Muhammad Ali, then we can go to Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

It is not simply that these people are so fucking stupid, bigoted, xenophobic and dangerous. Actually, it is that simple.

King: “100 percent of the Islamic terrorists are Muslim."

Me: "100 percent of the Christian terrorists are Christian."

Can't argue with a tautology. Now if he had said "100 percent of the Islamic terrorists are Christians," that would have been interesting. Equally nuts - although in a very different way - but interesting.


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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:39 AM
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14. Since our government has put in an express lane...
...to bomb predominantly Muslim countries, a little more profiling at home would at least be consistent. x(
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:40 AM
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15. This was SOP "back in the day"....
My Dad worked for AA for over 40 years. They were told to blatantly profile.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:49 AM
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18. I don't suppose asking why so many Abduls want to kill us would be a good place to start?
Nah. Let's close the bathrooms instead.
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