Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

JFK Photo That Could Have Changed History

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:39 AM
Original message
JFK Photo That Could Have Changed History
JFK Photo That Could Have Changed History

TMZ has obtained a never-before published photograph which appears to show John F. Kennedy on a boat filled with naked women -- it's a photo that could have altered world events.

(pic at link, nsfw)

We believe the photo was taken in the mid-1950s. It shows two naked women jumping off the boat and two more naked women sunning on the top deck. Just below the top deck -- a man appearing to be John F. Kennedy is lying on a deck, sunning himself.

TMZ had multiple experts examine the photo -- all say there is no evidence the picture was Photoshopped. The original print -- which is creased -- was scanned and examined for evidence of inconsistent lighting, photo composition and other forms of manipulation. The experts all concluded the photo appears authentic.

Professor Jeff Sedlik, a forensic photo expert, says the print appears to be authentic. Sedlik says the photo is printed on paper consistent with what was used in the 1950s. The emulsion on the surface of the print has numerous cracks -- the result of aging and handling.

http://tinyurl.com/ydvvf87
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:40 AM
Response to Original message
1. Yeah this would have set the Bray of Prigs in motion.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:10 AM
Response to Reply #1
35. LOL!
:thumbsup:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:41 AM
Response to Original message
2. Well good news
I mean there isn't a liberal icon we can't tear down, eventually.

Bryant
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:28 AM
Response to Reply #2
42. Kennedy was a moderate, not a liberal -- and still a pretty good president
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #42
51. You don't have to be particularly liberal to be a liberal icon, given how conservative this nation
is. Look at the fervor when Bill "Big Dog" Clinton speaks.

Bryant
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:42 AM
Response to Original message
3. when will the photo of Cheney eating babies circa 1950 surface?
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 10:42 AM by KittyWampus
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #3
11. It won't
He didn't start indulging in that in public until some ten years later.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:43 AM
Response to Original message
4. What is the point of this?
This man was one of our greatest leaders ever and since his death it has been nothing but attack, attack, attack.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:44 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. Is there anyone alive that doesn't know JFK was a philanderer?
I fail to see how this will hurt him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:44 AM
Response to Reply #4
9. its history, and interesting... shouldnt we get to see stuff like this even if it does tarnish our
heroes....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:46 AM
Response to Reply #9
12. I don't think so
Although he was a public figure, his private life should stay that way. Why must we worry about the private lives of our leaders?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:50 AM
Response to Reply #12
21. hes also dead, so why not get to see the whole of his life..
do you not think its more important to learn everything about historical figures in order to understand them and the times they were in, or do youthink when we discuss frinstance hitler we should never talk about his vegism or the fact that he was into architecture or that he had a crush on a female relative.... The very fact that you call him a leader means that we should know more about him and his life if its someone you are going to trust to lead...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:52 AM
Response to Reply #21
22. I love Kennedy for what he did for America
It is in bad taste to get into the man's private life. President Obama and his family should be shuttered from such things. Their private life is irrelevant to his leadership.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:54 AM
Response to Reply #22
25. not when it comes to writing the history of said leaders, i got no feelings for kennedy other than
as a historical figure, when i read about him i dont want to read the redacted version but rather the actual history, warts and all
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:56 AM
Response to Reply #25
27. Our leaders deserve their privacy
Maybe all our secrets should be printed and exposed to the public.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #27
30. you seem to miss the point of him being dead and now part of history
mayby you want all leaders to be able to rewrite their lifes before we elect them just so we dont see any skeletons they may have. Not sure how you equate learning that one leader hung out with naked chicks is so earth shattering that it needs to be kept a secret for ever... I guess when it comes to history you only want the approved version...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:19 AM
Response to Reply #4
40. To Get Clicks And Raise Online Advertising Rates
There's very little a technocrat cannot rationalize.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:36 AM
Response to Reply #4
45. nm.
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 12:35 PM by Cetacea
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:43 AM
Response to Original message
5. Well, good for him and the ladies. -nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:44 AM
Response to Original message
6. Vote Quimby.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:48 AM
Response to Reply #6
18. That illiterate, wife swapping, tax cheating, pot smoking Spend o Crat?
Oh yeah he's no longer illiterate.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:44 AM
Response to Original message
8. Does this matter?
I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:45 AM
Response to Original message
10. Good for him! Looks like all are having a great time.
Clothing is over-rated.

:P
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:46 AM
Response to Original message
13. Like we didn't know JFK was a womanizer before?
:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:47 AM
Response to Reply #13
16. Until this very minute, I thought he was a genteel family man.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:29 AM
Response to Reply #16
43. Are you being sarcastic
Or confusing JFK with his brother Bobby? Stuff about the President and his many mistresses has been around for at least 35 years, maybe longer.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:40 AM
Response to Reply #43
46. Yes, it was sarcasm.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:46 AM
Response to Original message
14. So what? Big Deal..are the puritans circling the fires yet?..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:46 AM
Response to Original message
15. Big deal--so all this will do is make W jealous n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:48 AM
Response to Original message
17. How could it have changed history?
The media generally ignored this kind of crap back then.

You could also argue that it was his brother Teddy who helped change this policy. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:10 AM
Response to Reply #17
36. Historical speculation.
If the photo had been released at the time, it might have (probably would have) impacted Kennedy's election bid - whether that would have resulted in his losing the election is debatable.

But, yeah, it would have - with the emphasis on the past tense - changed history.

Now? If verifiably JFK, it's just an interesting and largely irrelevant addendum to the historical record.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #36
57. It would have cemented the male vote in 1960!! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:49 AM
Response to Original message
19. I do not think that was Jack Kennedy
Sorry, too fuzzy. there is no evidence backing up the allegation that it is Jack Kennedy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:49 AM
Response to Original message
20. JFK was a major slut.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:52 AM
Response to Original message
23. Oh fer gawd's sake!! Who cares??n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:54 AM
Original message
The criticism will be borne mostly of envy.
The moralizing will come from men who are simply jealous that they do not have the wherewithal to lounge on a yacht with naked girls frolicking about; and the women will get all prudish because they are no longer young enough and hot enough to frolic naked on a yacht belonging to a rich and powerful man.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:54 AM
Response to Original message
24. Tinyurl - a dead give away it is PURE BULLSHIT
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tmyers09 Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:09 AM
Response to Reply #24
34. The link leads to TMZ...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jakefrep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #34
50. ...which means it's probably bullshit.
Al Qaeda could rehabilitate their image if they blew up TMZ's headquarters.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:56 AM
Response to Original message
26. I would be very happy to see the day when the sexual activities of our
elected officials are no longer an issue as long as they are legal and consensual. Too many in modern times have been brought down who would have been a force for good in elected office.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:57 AM
Response to Original message
28. Oh no! Naked Women!
I want to know: Where are the naked men?

Every time I've jumped off boats naked it's been with a mixed crowd... well except for the times it's been a bunch of stinky old fishermen and retired Navy guys.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:00 AM
Response to Original message
29. I would be more concerned with the competency of a captain who's PT boat gets cut in half...
from an enemy destroyer. Hero he wasn't. He should have been court marshalled. Were they all sleeping when it happened?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:04 AM
Response to Original message
31. And the Cuban Missile Crisis would have been equivocably handled well by Richard M. Nixon
had that photo gone public?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:06 AM
Response to Original message
32. So JFK had a thing for women

Marylin Monroe?

I wish I had his problems.

I doubt this would have changed anything. Every president had affairs, even Roosevelt. It's just the shit we deal with today that makes us think it would have changed things. The press had standards back then, and private lives were a non-no.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:08 AM
Response to Original message
33. JFK was a philanderer???
:wow:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:11 AM
Response to Original message
37. WHO THE HELL CARES (change world history ..bull)
If bush getting a black girl pregnant, she getting beat up and having a miscarriage, and 30 years later committing a suspicious suicide didn't change world events, how could a man laying on a deck with naked woman romping around make a bit of difference. AND when abortions were illegal how come bush was allowed to pay for one for his call girl liaison.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:12 AM
Response to Original message
38. Oh NOES, naked ladies!
Good grief.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:16 AM
Response to Original message
39. Impeach him!
Those women are now in their 70's.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:25 AM
Response to Original message
41. I don't think it would have changed history
The Religious Reich hadn't taken its role of prominence in American society then. The people KNEW Kennedy was a serious pussyhound, 'kay? And they were fine with it. Especially the men. There probably wasn't a man in America who didn't want to fuck Marilyn Monroe, and Kennedy was DOING IT! So Kennedy was just doing for all of us.

OTOH, if Kennedy was trying to become a politician in the 21st Century, he wouldn't have gotten past dogcatcher...between getting swiftboated (well, PT-boated) and his affairs divulged, he would have been lucky to get a job making tacos. Besides, he was an Actual Liberal--not a centrist who's being accused of liberalism by someone who makes Benito Mussolini look like a flaming leftist, but a no-shit Massachusetts Liberal.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:36 AM
Response to Original message
44. I think being on the same boat with naked women is better than
incinerating and murdering innocent Iraqi men, women and children. It's better than destroying every right we have as Americans.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:41 AM
Response to Original message
47. Yes... far better to have an impotent like GWB* who must prove his
"manhood," not by philandering, but by starting illegal wars that kill countless thousands. Or a Cheney, whose pious seething anger leads to the most corrupt of administrations that devours our civil rights and justifies torture in our name.


His philandering was the business of his family, IMO. Of course not much has changed, given the fall-out from Edward's well publicized (and arguably more despicable episode, given Elizabeth's health). So, perhaps the point is made....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:49 AM
Response to Original message
48. Men like young naked women.. what a shock
and young women will take their clothes off for an attractive young man..another shock...especially if he's rich..

Married men still like attractive young women...and many will cheat if given a chance..another shocker..

the times were different then..news people sought out news, and allowed pols to have a private life..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:54 AM
Response to Original message
49. he was on a boat with many ladies when Jackie gave stillbirth to their first child
he never bothered to come to see her
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:56 AM
Response to Original message
52. tmz makes the national enquirer look dignified
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:58 AM
Response to Original message
53. Why doesn't my boat ever fill up with naked women?
I feel like I'm doing something wrong here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #53
54. You need to fill the boat with money first.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 12:02 PM
Response to Original message
55. Who took the photo in the first place & how did a car dealer end up with it?
Story seems tailor made for a scandal sheet...and damn skippy it would have been used back in 1960.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 12:30 PM
Response to Original message
56. The photo's real; okay, I'll buy that. But there is no way to positively identify anyone in it--
and besides, who the hell cares anyway?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 12:38 PM
Response to Original message
58. K&U. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 12:49 PM
Response to Original message
59. It's not JFK, it's WJC...
...from when he was in Hawaii planting fake birth notices about Barak Obama.


Photographic evidence that the Clenis is powerful enough to travel through time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #59
60. There had been theories that it was so massive it warped the fabric of space-time.
This confirms it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 16th 2024, 06:33 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC