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howard112211 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:25 PM
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Check in if you hope the Iranians succeed at overthrowing their illegitimate government.
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 04:46 PM by howard112211
For the record: I am no friend of the American "put pressure on Iran" types. Furthermore, I think the people who have openly called for military strikes against Iran should be locked away for crimes against peace.

But these people who are hitting the streets right now are showing SPIRIT. I wish them luck and success for their cause.

edit: I don't in any way support foreign intervention.
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:31 PM
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1. I hope they get a more responsive gov't
however they do it.
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:44 PM
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17. Me Too- As Long As We Stay Out of It
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:54 PM
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23. As long as the religion of Islam rules that country, the people don't have a chance.
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:25 PM
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26. You Are Probably Right (Sadly)
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:31 PM
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2. I can't help hoping if they do, it will be without any "assistance" from the CIA or any entity
outside of Iran.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:34 PM
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3. Me too.
It's time for America to stop interfering in the will of the people in other countries even if we don't like the outcome that much.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:35 PM
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5. Krauthammer trashed the Bam Admin for NOT helping them. They'll do it on their own. nt
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howard112211 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:35 PM
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6. Oh don't worry. The CIA doesn't support democratic movements.
They support puppet "strongmen". A democratic movement with an unclear outcome is not something the CIA wishes for Iran.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:34 PM
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4. Here I am!
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:35 PM
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7. go get 'em. nt
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phasma ex machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:35 PM
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8. K&R
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StarfarerBill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:36 PM
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9. I agree. Let's help them by staying out of it; another intervention will help no one.
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howard112211 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:39 PM
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13. There is nothing the US can do to help.
Any outside intervention will strengthen the anti-democratic forces.

What we can do, however, is express support.
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StarfarerBill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:48 PM
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21. My point exactly.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:36 PM
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10. Why narrow it just to Iran, why not Afghanistan too.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:38 PM
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11. The longer they delay the inevitable - the worse it will be
did you see them trash the police station
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:38 PM
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12. K&R for LIBERTY!
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:39 PM
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14. if it is without the manipilation of the people by any outside forces (CIA)
then I'm all for it.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:39 PM
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15. In solidarity with my many Iranian-American neighbors and clients,
I am totally opposed to Ahmedinejad's government and fully support the Green Revolution.
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:44 PM
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16. We should help them if they are unable to overthrow them
We have so many resources we could send into the Islamic Republic to help the protesters overthrow their corrupt leaders.
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howard112211 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:45 PM
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18. I don't agree with that and distance myself from that statment.
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:46 PM
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19. Why?
We should support democracy in all countries.
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howard112211 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:47 PM
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20. Except that we don't.
The United States doesn't support democratic movements for the sake of democracy.

Furthermore, any foreign intervention will strenghten the anti-democratic forces.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:35 PM
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29. send in resources?
I promise you even the protesters in Iran don't want us "sending in" any "resources." The last time we "sent in resources" it didn't go well for anyone, and no one in Iran has forgotten that, unlike so many here.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:54 PM
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22. KnR! nt
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 04:59 PM
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24. I'm Recently Back From A Business Trip To Germany.....
on my way to Tegel Airport in Berlin in a taxi - I learned my driver was Iranian. We engaged in a discussion of what was going on in his country - and he predicted that the Amadinajad government would be overthrown within 2 years. He also predicted that before that would happen Israel would bomb Iran within 6 to 10 months.

So I'm just sitting back and waiting to see if any of his predictions will come to pass.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:08 PM
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25. If they are truly a democratic movement we need not worry
about the US intervening. I wish all countries well when it comes to throwing off oppressive regimes. The problem with Iran for me is, the US's interests there. The current government apparently has refused to cave in to the authoritarian demands of the US. What would a new government do?

The last time the US interfered in Iran there was nothing but bloodshed for both their people and the people of Iraq. And we are also responsible for giving them the brutal Shah Of Iran's regime and secret police etc.

I don't know enough about who is behind these uprising to feel certain there is no CIA or Neocon involvement and I would hate to see people getting killed thinking their movement is theirs only, only to find out later, they get a puppet government as they have in the past.

Hard to believe the neocons would not be somehow involved in all of this. Not saying the ordinary people are not sincere, I just hope they are not caught between two nasty groups, their own government and ours.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:26 PM
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27. K&R.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:29 PM
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28. I agree. K&R. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 05:39 PM
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30. Good luck to all that want to be free
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