Evidently some people are believing their own noise

[ProSense]

Obama's approval among Democrats is extremely high

[MercutioATC]

1. The shit has not yet hit the fan.

Claiming either continued support or a mass exodus is premature.

[ProSense]

6. Claiming either continued support or a mass exodus is premature." No,

Claiming continued support while there is strong support is not premature. Claiming mass exodus is delusional.

[MercutioATC]

11. As I said, people haven't felt the negative effects yet. In fact, there's no actual bill yet.

Time will tell.

[malaise]

13. +1 n/t

[MNDemNY]

18. You seem to not understand "polls"

Even I would voice my unwaivering support of all that is Obama to a national poll. And I have graded him with an A+ in polls. Of course a national poll would give him good marks from Democrats, and rightly so. But, Pro, it's all about the green line. Wake up!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

2. Which is why I vote issues instead of party or politician.

[ProSense]

3. Quick, hide reality. n/t

[MercutioATC]

7. Have you really begun replying to your own posts?

That's just sad...

[MNDemNY]

12. The green line on that graph is what is sad.

and that is the one that counts.

[bigwillq]

15. She does that quite often.

The thread has been up for a mere few minutes. It has close to 200 views already. People are looking at the thread. Isn't that a good thing? :shrug: Patience is a virtue.

[donco6]

49. And that's not even counting socks. n/t

[ProSense]

19. No, it's not sad. It's a means of making an additional comment

Trying to use that as a distraction is completely pathetic.

[MercutioATC]

23. The OP is like 5 minutes old...you have the edit function available.

Whatever. I think it's bizarre.

[ProSense]

25. Who cares? What are you the thread police. I'll post an additional comment

however I feel like. Problem? Tough.

[MercutioATC]

33. ...as you've evidenced.

Knock yourself out, dude.

:rofl:

[MNDemNY]

8. The "reality" of the green line???

:rofl:

[MNDemNY]

4. The green line is the one that decides elections.

How's that one lookin'?:shrug:

[ProSense]

9. "How's that one lookin'? "

Like it looks after every election.

[MNDemNY]

14. Cop-out.

The green line is the one that decides elections. FAIL.

[ProSense]

22. "The green line is the one that decides elections."

Well then the bogus claim that Democrats are defecting is irrelevant.

[MNDemNY]

24. Not bogus.

But if you would stop and think, you would understand that this would not show up in national polling. But wait for the memo, it's easier.

[ProSense]

36. Like I said,

Some people believe their own noise.

[MNDemNY]

42. Like you?

You seem to believe any thing out of Obama-land.

[Don Caballero]

5. I am one of those

I fully support our President and all of his decisions.

[timeforpeace]

10. The green line is the important one. From 70% to zip in 11 months.

[ProSense]

16. What's with the green-line claim?

OMG, people running around claiming Obama is losing massive support among Dems are now focusing on a normal pattern for Independents?

What about the bullshit claim about Democrats?


:rofl:

[MNDemNY]

21. Not "bullshit" , just unlikely to be reflected in national polling.

Again, FAIL

[ProSense]

27. .

:rofl:

[MNDemNY]

32. Prove your asinine claim of "normal pattern" for INDs.

[ProSense]

35. Wow, after making baseless assertions, you're asking for proof?

Here you go

[MNDemNY]

40. SORRY but AS USUAL your link proves nothing.

I asked you to prove your claim that a decline from 65% approval to 11% approval is "normal" among independents. You link me to a gallop poll. Sorry FAIL.:rofl: You do that all the time, provide a bullshit link and claim "proof".


FAIL

[ProSense]

41. Stay in denial. Please do. n/t

[MNDemNY]

43. And That proves nothing either.

Nothing but FAIL tonight, pro.

[Tesha]

47. You're ROTFLAO now, but on Wednesday, November 3rd, you're likely to be cyring.

You'll also be wandering around saying "WTF happened?
WTF happened?"

It won't be pretty.

Tesha

[valerief]

17. Sausagina and Chessy Morgan say give him time. nt

[Nikki Stone1]

20. Pot. Kettle. Black.

:D

[Individualist]

37. +1

[phasma ex machina]

26. Interesting correlated dips in the blue and green lines from 8/13 to 9/10. What happened then?

[TheKentuckian]

28. I don't hate Obama. I busted ass to elect him by time, money, and effort

I bought and read his books, voted for him twice, argued on his behalf, urged patience, reminded folks of how the process functions, got fired up at his speeches, and cried at his Inauguration.

BUT that doesn't mean I'm required to sit silent for or support horrid or stupid policy.

This health care debacle is unacceptable.

Continuing to waste blood and treasuer on an impotent action in Afghanistan is stupid.

Refusal to go after Wall Street hammer and tongs is both, regardless of what Congress does, he needed/needs to do EVERYTHING he can on this. The people that are going to yell socialist-kenyan-muslim-commie would pull that crap no matter what but everyone else sees the high rollers getting the red carpet treatment and pukes a little in their mouths, at best.

[Greyhound]

29. And evidently a few see only what they wish for.

A Daily Kos poll that clearly shows 58% have an over-all negative opinion?
:dunce:

[ProSense]

31. You may want to check the math skills.

The poll shows Obama with a 55 percent approval

[Greyhound]

45. You may want to brush up on your reading comprehension.

The poll shows http://www.dailykos.com/weeklytrends">58% think we are headed in wrong direction. A direction he was elected to lead.

[whatchamacallit]

30. I'll stick with vox of meus own. (n/t)

[That Is Quite Enough]

34. Yes, yes they are.

[Kansas Wyatt]

38. You will not see stadiums packed for Obama in 2012

You will see Obama supporters bused in for town hall meetings in 2012, much like his predecessor did in 2004. Rah! Rah! Rahm!

The Blow back is coming... Just keep talking.

[ProSense]

39. "You will see Obama supporters bused in for town hall meetings in 2012"

More noise.

[Kansas Wyatt]

52. "More noise."

Hope you enjoy the sound of crickets chirping...

Get used to it.

[Thickasabrick]

44. Again, Independents are the worry. This chart makes me worry.

Obama will not win without the Independents.

You have said on other threads where you have posted this chart "Hogwash, they'll be back"

Obama will not win if ALL the democrats do not come out AND the independents vote for someone else.

The latest trending suggests the democrats will not have as high percentages as the pukes and indys who are planning to vote.

[TheKentuckian]

46. While the problem is still there I have to think its overrated

A great many of the indy's are just Republicans who wanted off the sinking ship or went teabagger. The drop in Republican ID didn't disappear or become liberals all the sudden. There is no reason to expect to have parity with the Republicans as far as percentage of independents. If we're at 34% and pukes are at 19% then if we split the indy's it would be an epic ass-whopping.

[Thickasabrick]

48. Oh yeah, like when Indy's in Virgina left democrats 2:1 in the governor's

election. I really think you need to let up on the Kool-Aid.

[ProSense]

50. Creigh Deeds ran against the Democratic platform.

He got what he deserved.

[MNDemNY]

53. and Obama governs against the Democratic Platform.

What does he deserve?

[Toasterlad]

51. There Are More Non-Affiliated People In This Country Than Either Democrats OR Republicans.

It doesn't make a tit-load of difference WHAT Democrats think of Obama. He's not getting re-elected if he continues to piss off the people that voted him in the first time: the Independents.

[timeforpeace]

54. +1

[ProSense]

55. "It doesn't make a tit-load of difference WHAT Democrats think of Obama."

That's right, move the goal post.

[Toasterlad]

56. Um...Move the Goal Post From Where?

If you don't like the reality that Obama can't get elected solely by die-hard, lock-step Democrats, that's your problem. It doesn't change the fact. And it also doesn't change the fact that there are many, MANY Democrats who are unhappy with Obama...and there will be many more over the next three years if he continues kissing Republican ass and ignoring his promises.

You cheerleaders love to tell all the true progressives that Obama's only been in office for a year, and that it's too early to judge his presidency. And yet, you have no problem believing that, because one poll tells you that most Democrats still like him NOW, he can easily be reelected in 2012.

You might try taking off the pretty pink glasses and checking out the real world at some point.

[ProSense]

57. "You cheerleaders love to tell all the true progressives "

Who annointed you progressive?

[Toasterlad]

59. Me. And That's All the Authority I Need.

I'm certainly not interested in the opinion of someone who thinks a corporatist like Obama is in any way, shape, or form a liberal.

[Odin2005]

58. That won't last when people figure out that they will be forced to hand over money to Big Insurance.

More pro-Fascist pom-poms from ProNonsense.

[Bluebear]

60. Rich.