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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 07:48 PM
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Idiotic Republican Libertarian scared of a US NHS.
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 07:57 PM by TheBigotBasher
http://www.reviewmessenger.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3704:america-under-barack-obama&catid=19:guest-opinion

Nat Hentoff has had a life well spent, one chock full of controversy fueled by his passion for the protection of civil liberties and human rights. Hentoff is known as a civil libertarian, free speech activist, anti-death penalty advocate, pro-lifer and not uncommon critic of the ideological left.

At 84, Nat Hentoff is an American classic who has never shied away from an issue. For example, he defended a woman rejected from law school because she was Caucasian; called into a talk show hosted by Oliver North to agree with him on liberal intolerance for free speech; was a friend to the late Malcolm X; and wrote the liner notes for Bob Dylan's second album.

A self-described uncategorizable libertarian, Hentoff adds he is also a “Jewish atheist, civil libertarian, pro-lifer.” Accordingly, he has angered nearly every political faction and remains one of a few who has stuck to his principles through his many years of work, regardless of the trouble it stirred up. For instance, when he announced his opposition to abortion he alienated numerous colleagues, and his outspoken denunciation of President Bill Clinton only increased his isolation in liberal circles (He said that Clinton had "done more harm to the Constitution than any president in American history," and called him "a serial violator of our liberties.").


I knew there was a reason why I did not like Dylan. Free drugs for Ultra Conservatives.

The American right view of "libertarian" borders on the insane.

John W. Whitehead: When Barack Obama was a U.S. Senator in 2005, he introduced a bill to limit the Patriot Act. Now that he is president, he has endorsed the Patriot Act as is. What do you think happened with Obama?

Nat Hentoff: I try to avoid hyperbole, but I think Obama is possibly the most dangerous and destructive president we have ever had. An example is ObamaCare, which is now embattled in the Senate. If that goes through the way Obama wants, we will have something very much like the British system. If the American people have their health care paid for by the government, depending on their age and their condition, they will be subject to a health commission just like in England which will decide if their lives are worth living much longer.


Wrong. The NHS is available to all. There may be issues, but those generally involve management, no one can tell me that there are no bad hospitals in the US. In the UK you will walk away with a hip operation at 90, or a heart attack operation at 40 with absolutely nothing to pay. Zilch. Zero.

No-one goes bankrupt because of health costs in the UK, whether they contract, HIV, Cancer, Heart disease, or liver failure. You will not get a bill for treatment costs at all.

"NICE" the death care panel Palinites like to scare you about decide, based on a number of factors what drugs can be safely used as they are released. They have no right to negotiate cots, that is done by a different service. They decide if a newly released drug is effective or worth it.

America having something like the NHS would make it a civilized nation.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 07:57 PM
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1. Hentoff is intellectually dishonest.
He loves civil liberties, except for pregnant women.

Just another hypocrite.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 07:59 PM
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2. Most Republican Libertarians are.
Including their Patron Saint, Ron Paul, who adds in to the mix authoritarian border controls.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 08:50 PM
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3. Can not edit
but I will add, the fundamentalist Conservadems who betrayed their own voters by stripping out the compromise that was tge public option deserve punishment, not future rewards,
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 08:59 PM
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4. This is a reason to dislike Dylan?
You're an idiot.
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