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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:47 PM
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Bush's Roosting Chickens Still Coming Home: Ex-Guant. Prisoners Behind 253 Attack, sent to SA in 07
Former Guantanamo Prisoners Believed Behind Northwest Airlines Bomb Plot; Sent to Saudi Arabia in 2007

Let me say first that I always keep my eye out for military psy-ops in our own media. It would not surprise me to learn that the whole story of two former guantanamo prisoners being behind the 09/12 Attack is being planted. Still, with a dose of skepticism, it's reasonable to assume this could be true because:

1. Prisoners released in 07 were under the watchful eye of Bush*. Thus, anything is possible.
2. Because of the multiple violations of international laws and human rights, the US has been unable to prosecute any of the suspected Al-Quaeda members they caught in 2002. Even our conservative Supreme Court was unwilling to reverse centuries old judicial precedent to overlook the abuses of the Bush* administration. By the end of the disastrous Bush* years, with no choice left but to put the prisoners through the US judicial system or release them, the administration released them (knowing their mistreatment would justify acquittals if they went to go to trial).

Even if these prisoners had no affiliation with Al-Quaeda before they were held without trial and tortured for so many years, it's not a far stretch to believe that, once released, a former prisoner would be easy fodder for the anti-American movement.

In the U.S., the political winds were blowing hard against the Bush* Administration and against Guantanamo in 07 and 08. Candidates for public office that wanted the facility closed won the elections. By the time they arrived in office, they would learn that intelligence was showing that released prisoners were joining Al-Quaeda.

Suddenly, the rush to close the facility would become much more difficult. No longer could those who had been tortured be simply released to Arab countries where they would simply join Al-Quaeda and turn again to attack the US. Guantanamo itself had become a terrorist creation operation and shutting it down would ensure more attacks on the US. Even sending the prisoners through the U.S. justice system would likely release them, perhaps directly into the US itself.

Now, I'm doing some speculating here, of course. I'm also drawing conclusions. But the scenario is plausible.

So much of what we hear is only an echo of the truth. The most relevant point in this scenario is that all these mistakes were made by the Bush* Administration and inherited by Obama. When we learn that the closing of Guantanamo must be delayed, or that our effort to defeat Al-Quaeda abroad and in Afghanistan is being increased, it's important to remember that these decisions are still in response to the situation that Obama inherited, which was a catastrophe for the US. It could take years for us to correct our course from the many terrible decisions made by Bush* and Cheney*.

Where we must find our comfort is in knowing that the person(s) behind the curtain now is no longer Bush*, but is a whole new crew of people thanks to the will of Americans like you and me. That act alone doesn't fix the system or right the wrongs, it doesn't eliminate corruption or make all future decisions the correct ones. But it does give us a new chance - a new hope. It IS a change. The kind of decisions being made now are very different from those of the past.

No 'red alert' security warnings. No 'buy duct tape' nonsense. No 'bring it on' or 'you can fool me once...' or 'shock and awe' crap. No 'unpatriotic' name-calling. No calls to attack Iran.

I believe it IS our job to keep the fire under the feet of the Obama Administration to fix the problems and right the wrongs, to close Guantanamo and to end torture (already done, hopefully). But I also believe it is unreasonable to expect these solutions to happen overnight, given the catastrophic state of affairs left to him by his predecessor.

These two ex-Guantanamo prisoners are just two more of Bush's chickens who have come home to roost. I expect there will be many more in the years ahead. I hope Obama will address some of these in his upcoming State of the Union address.

peace
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:49 PM
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1. This will throw a wrench in any Freepish attempt to blame Obama, eh? nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:53 PM
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2. +1
Bush and Cheney's war crimes at work.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 09:07 PM
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8. Why would you think that?
Since when have facts ever impeded Freepers from blaming everything on Democrats?

The only thing that would even slow them down on blaming Obama would be the possibility of blaming it on Clinton.

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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:06 PM
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3. Irony is that this may lead to fewer releases from Gitmo.
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 02:02 AM
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5. Perhaps it already has. n/t
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FLDCVADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:55 PM
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7. As it should
We can't bitch and moan to let the people out of Gitmo and then be surprised when they go back and do what we imprisoned them for trying to do in the first place.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 10:13 PM
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4. This is the kind of thing I came to DU for, thank you. Critical analysis
instead of shouting.

I wish I could recommend more than once.
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:23 PM
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6. kick! n/t
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