no_hypocrisy
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Tue Dec-29-09 12:24 PM
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Brazilian family wants to bring boy back from NJ |
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Tue Dec-29-09 12:26 PM
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1. He shoud cut off all contact with them. |
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I'd be afraid they'd kidnap him back. They're awful.
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Tue Dec-29-09 12:26 PM
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2. smells like...kidnapping coming soon nt |
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Tue Dec-29-09 12:49 PM
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5. If not Murdering the Bio-Dad |
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he needs to stay put at the Embassy and Hilary needs to address this
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Tue Dec-29-09 12:33 PM
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3. He knows his Bralizian family better |
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and he has not called his American father dad yet.
I feel so sorry for this child.
Whatever happens, it is going to be disruptive for him.
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Tue Dec-29-09 12:38 PM
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4. I don't know where I stand on this.... |
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Don't get me wrong, I totally feel for the dad. What the boys mother did by taking him to another country and keeping him down there was horrible. And in a perfect world he would have gotten him back almost immediately after she died. He's his father, and that's that. Just like I felt during the Elian Gonzales debacle.
But that being said he has lived down there for so long, that is the family the boy knows. To take him completely away from them can't be good for him either.
What i don't know is, did they keep him from his father during that time? Had he made efforts to go visit him and was thwarted by them? Did he try and discuss some sort of joint custody situation (Some time up here, some time down there)? If he didn't want that at all and it was an all or nothing thing for him, then I'm not sure that was in the best interest of the child either.
Like I said, I'm torn. No good answers.
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Tue Dec-29-09 12:50 PM
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6. yep - they did every thing they could to exclude Bio-Dad |
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Tue Dec-29-09 12:54 PM
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7. yes they kept him from his father. And there is no reason why |
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the (unrelated) Brazilian family should have any rights to him. Should the father decide to let them visit that might be a good thing for the boy, but really, it's up to his dad.
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Tue Dec-29-09 12:55 PM
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8. They did more than exclude the father from even visiting. |
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The stepfather applied to ADOPT the kid, terminating all parental rights to his natural, biological father.
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Tue Dec-29-09 12:55 PM
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9. It is a horrible situation. |
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But you simply cannot reward kidnappers. Not ever, even if the child has bonded with the kidnapper or has blood ties with them. If it helps to look at it from another point of view. If you have children, would you ever stop the fight to get your child back after, say a year or two, simply because that child has bonded with them? If you don't have children, then can you imagine doing such a thing? There are legal and civil custody channels to go through. It's never okay to simply abscond with a child and break a bond with another parent. Never. If a child suffers from the transfer after a kidnapping, it is the fault of the kidnapper. If we reward kidnappers, it incentivizes kidnapping in addition to penalizing the parent who lost the child. It is absolutely heartrending that a child is victimized in this way. But it is absolutely the fault of the kidnapper, and it makes their act all the more horrendous. The child is going through this heartending ordeal because the kidnappers did this to him. Not because he's rightfully being restored to his father.
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Tue Dec-29-09 01:05 PM
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THAT IS THE REASON YOU DO NOT REWARD KIDNAPPERS WHOSE VICTIM HAS BONDED WITH THE KIDNAPPER
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Tue Dec-29-09 12:56 PM
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10. There are about a brazilian reasons this won't happen. |
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And I'd be careful about any visit if there were any chance of a snatch and fly.
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