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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 03:55 PM
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Afghans shout "death to Obama" at demonstration over civilian killings


Afghans shout ‘death to Obama’ over killings
Investigator says most of dead were teen students, but NATO disputes that
December 30, 2009

ASADABAD, Afghanistan - The head of a presidential delegation investigating the deaths of 10 people in eastern Afghanistan concluded Wednesday that civilians — including schoolchildren — were killed in an attack involving foreign troops, but NATO officials disputed that.

NATO spokesman Col. Wayne Shanks said in a statement NATO has no direct evidence to substantiate the Afghan probe's findings, and the international force has requested an immediate joint investigation to find out what happened.

Asadullah Wafa, a senior adviser to President Hamid Karzai, gave conflicting numbers on the schoolchildren. He told The Associated Press by telephone that eight schoolchildren between the ages of 12 and 14 were among the dead discovered in a village house in the Narang district of Kunar province. But Reuters quoted him as saying that eight boys, ages 13 to 18, and two men in their 20s were killed.

Afghans protested the deaths Wednesday in the eastern Afghan city of Jalalabad and in the capital of Kabul.

In the capital of Nangahar province, which borders Kunar, around 200 university students took to the streets to protest against the raid, demanding those responsible be brought to justice.

"Death to Obama. Down with Karzai," they shouted.

Wafa said he was convinced all those killed in the Kunar incident were innocent civilians.

"I have talked to the principal of the school in the village and he gave us details about the killed children," Wafa said in Asadabad, the provincial capital of Kunar.

Wafa said the villagers demanded from the 10-member delegation of government officials and lawmakers that informants "who gave the wrong target to the Americans must be found and punished by a court."


Protesters chant anti-American slogans and burn an effigy of President Barack Obama in Jalalabad, Afghanistan, on Wednesday.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34629216/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/

- I bet many of these informants give false information to the U.S. military on the alleged location of insurgents and are really working for Taliban warlords. -


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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 03:56 PM
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1. Blowback = Lucrative
Yikes...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:00 PM
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2. Earth to Obama.
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:10 PM
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10. Let's hope he figures out he listened to the wrong people sooner
rather than later.
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:16 PM
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12. yep (n/t)
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:02 PM
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3. Who didn't see this coming?
God I wish Obama read DU. He's becoming completely sealed in the bubble.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:05 PM
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4. As to your final comment, I agree wholeheartedly. We have learned
nothing apparently from our early Afghan and Iraq failures. Failures that saw innocents rounded up on the say so lying "informers" trying to get even with their rivals and using US as their pawns toward those ends.

I cannot comprehend why we trust any informants anywhere without hard evidence to back things up. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, we certainly have full jails here from the same bullshit.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:09 PM
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9. And they never learn -US plots retaliatory strikes against al-Qaida in Yemen over plane bomber
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/30/us-plots-retaliatory-strikes-yemen
<snip>
The US is planning retaliatory strikes in Yemen against al-Qaida over its attempt to blow up a transatlantic flight on Christmas Day.

American officials say intelligence efforts are focused on identifying and tracking down those who plotted to put Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab on the plane with enough explosive in his underwear to bring down the Northwest Airlines flight from Amsterdam. But they warn that finding those responsible is unlikely to be swift and say that identifying other "high-value" al-Qaida targets for retaliatory attack would also be a priority.

"First we have to find out who put Abdulmutallab on the plane with the bomb," said a US official working alongside intelligence organisations. "He's providing some leads and we're not dealing with an unknown quantity here. We've been watching and listening to what goes on in Yemen and we may have pieces of the puzzle already and just need to fit it together.
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Start with Cheney
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:06 PM
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5. "informants 'who gave the wrong target to the Americans must be found and punished by a court.'"
That's quite a thoughtful response. But war can only erode our relations w/ the Afghanis.
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:07 PM
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6. 8 children executed by US troops. Obama, you goddamn fool, get us out
Not acceptable. You are responsible.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:08 PM
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7. Ingrates! Don't they understand we're killing their children for their own good? K&R
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:11 PM
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11. Whiner!
:evilgrin:
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ProgressIn2008 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:18 PM
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13. They are clearly out of touch with reality. nt
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:09 PM
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8. I guess they will all be voting for Palin in 2012
Who knew that Fox "News" was organizing tea baggings in Afghanistan?
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StarfarerBill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:23 PM
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14. And we were expecting parades and flowers, perhaps?
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 04:24 PM by StarfarerBill
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:41 PM
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15. What a horrible image.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 05:12 PM
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16. How many billions are we pouring into this shithole?
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 05:34 PM
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17. Well, we need to rebuild their economy. A lot of Afghans are unemployed.

What do you wanna do? Spend that money for jobs at home?
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:48 PM
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23. Yeah, I forgot. We should just get our wheelbarrows and empty out our assets to all shitheads.
After that a pound of flesh should be a piece of cake.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 05:40 PM
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18. What's it going to take for Obama to understand that War is NOT Peace? nt
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 05:42 PM
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19. Answer: A mass anti-war movement similiar to what LBJ and Nixon had to face.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 05:53 PM
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22. Will that happen without a draft? I really hope so, but I'm doubtful.
Because it seems to me that people only started to get upset with Obama because of the Health Care mandate, not when he beefed up troops and made his War is Peace speech at West Point.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 05:42 PM
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20. huh--now why would they blame US?
Oh. Because we did kill their children. I hear we don't have to even write them down
if it's less than 30. Guess that's how it slipped our attention.
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 05:44 PM
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21. Hearts and minds!
:nuke:
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:17 AM
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24. !
Meet Hamid Karzai
or as Obama calls him, "The Government of Afghanistan".

He was appointed by Bush the Lesser to run Afghanistan.
He is one of the most despicable criminals in The World,
But NOW we like him so much
that our children will be sent to DIE in the deserts of Afghanistan to keep him in power.
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