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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:06 PM
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Obama on Abortion - a blast from the past
Ok for state to restrict late-term partial birth abortion
On an issue like partial birth abortion, I strongly believe that the state can properly restrict late-term abortions. I have said so repeatedly. All I’ve said is we should have a provision to protect the health of the mother, and many of the bills that came before me didn’t have that.

Part of the reason they didn’t have it was purposeful, because those who are opposed to abortion have a moral calling to try to oppose what they think is immoral. Oftentimes what they were trying to do was to polarize the debate and make it more difficult for people, so that they could try to bring an end to abortions overall.

As president, my goal is to bring people together, to listen to them, and I don’t think that’s any Republican out there who I’ve worked with who would say that I don’t listen to them, I don’t respect their ideas, I don’t understand their perspective. And my goal is to get us out of this polarizing debate where we’re always trying to score cheap political points and actually get things done.
Source: 2008 Fox News interview: presidential series Apr 27, 2008

1990: Wrote law article that that fetus cannot sue mother
As president of the Harvard Law Review and a law professor in Chicago, Barack Obama refined his legal thinking, but left a scant paper trail. His name doesn’t appear on any legal scholarship. But an unsigned--and previously unattributed-- 1990 article unearthed by Politico offers a glimpse at Obama’s views on abortion policy and the law during his student days, and provides a rare addition to his body of work.

The six-page summary considers the charged, if peripheral, question of whether fetuses should be able to file lawsuits against their mothers. Obama’s answer, like most courts’: No. He wrote approvingly of an Illinois Supreme Court ruling that the unborn cannot sue their mothers for negligence, and he suggested that allowing fetuses to sue would violate the mother’s rights and could, perversely, cause her to take more risks with her pregnancy.

Obama’s article, which begins on page 823 of Volume 103 of the Harvard Law Review, is available in libr
Source: Politico.com, “Obama’s lost law review article” Aug 22, 2008

FactCheck: Abortions HAVE gone down under Pres. Bush
Obama, who favors a legal right to abortion, noted that he was trying to “reduce the number of abortions.” But he went too far when he falsely accused President Bush of failing to meet that same goal, saying incorrectly that “over the last eight years, abortions have not gone down.”

This is an erroneous claim that we first tracked down and debunked more than three years ago when it was being repeated by Howard Dean and Hillary Clinton, among others.

The Guttmacher Institute, whose figures are cited regularly by both sides in the abortion debate, say on their Web site, “In 2005, 1.21 million abortions were performed, down from 1.31 million abortions in 2000.”

There’s little to show the decline has come about because of anything President Bush did or didn’t do. In fact, the number of abortions in the U.S. has been falling steadily since the 1980s regardless of whether the person in the White House favored a legal right to abortion or opposed it.
Source: FactCheck.org analysis of 2008 Saddleback joint appearance Aug 16, 2008

1997: opposed bill preventing partial-birth abortion
In 1997, Obama voted in the Illinois Senate against SB 230, a bill designed to prevent partial-birth abortions. In the US Senate, Obama has consistently voted to expand embryonic stem cell research. He has voted against requiring minors who get out-of-state abortions to notify their parents. The National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL) gives Obama a 100% score on his pro-choice voting record in the Senate for 2005, 2006, and 2007.
Source: Obama Nation, by Jerome Corsi, p.238-239 Aug 1, 2008

Opposed legislation protecting born-alive failed abortions
Obama has consistently refused to support legislation that would define an infant who survives a late-term induced-labor abortion as a human being with the right to live. He insists that no restriction must ever be placed on the right of a mother to decide to abort her child.

On March 30, 2001, Obama was the only Illinois senator who rose to speak against a bill that would have protected babies who survived late term labor-induced abortion. Obama rose to object that if the bill passed, and a nine-month-old fetus survived a late-term labor-induced abortion was deemed to be a person who had a right to live, then the law would "forbid abortions to take place." Obama further explained the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment does not allow somebody to kill a child, so if the law deemed a child who survived a late-term labor-induced abortion had a right to live, "then this would be an anti-abortion statute."
Source: Obama Nation, by Jerome Corsi, p.238 Aug 1, 2008

more here:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Barack_Obama_Abortion.htm
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:13 PM
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1. Bizarre. THere is a post attacking Kucinich with the same title
on nearly the same subject. Is there something in the water today?

FWIW, the other post didn't cheer for Smirk like this one does.
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:28 PM
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3. I don't see this article as attacking Obama. n/t
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:13 PM
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2. Obama's postion throughout is Rowe vs. Wade to the letter.
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 04:16 PM by denem
As per Blackmun: The state can restrict or proscribe abortion when the fetus is viable (eg during the third trimester), "except where it is necessary, in appropriate medical judgment, for the preservation of the life or health of the mother".

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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:29 PM
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4. And the purpose of this post was.....? nt
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:31 PM
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5. Seems like abortion is a hot topic today when it comes to politicians
just trying to keep up with current trends :)
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:35 PM
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6. I've missed what side of the Kucinich fence you are on. Is Dennis
a traitor now or still our lovable but misunderstood congressman from Ohio?
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:37 PM
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7. Oh, my yes. VERY hot topic, indeed. Savvy you for picking up on this
:thumbsup: :hi:
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