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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:31 PM
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I don't care what side you're on .......
..... but if you're one of the first-seconds-a-post-is-up anonymous unwreckers, you're pathetic. You're juvenile. And you're petty because, for most of you who do this, you're doing it against the poster and not the post. I have no doubt there are exceptions to that, but I have no doubt that's the overwhelming truth of it. I see more and more posters complaining about this. The most pathetic of you started this anonymous unwrecking and now it is a widespread practice.

I'm sure there will be a crew into this thread to tell me they unwreck all threads about unwreck. Get over yourselves. You're part of the same issue.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:32 PM
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1. K&R.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:33 PM
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2. Welcome to my world.
:toast:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 04:57 PM
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:34 PM
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3. And 2 recs gone already.
Stinky, you know they love to unrec threads like this one.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:36 PM
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4. That's absolutely true too Nikki.
This post will be unrec'd hard, but at least it won't be because it's Stinky.

I bet you and I'd get unrecs if we said the sky was blue.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:44 PM
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13. Bernie, you've got a point there.
If there were a way to do a joint thread, we'd probably burn up the record books.

:D
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:47 PM
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16. Testing, one two three
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:14 PM
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32. test was moved to new location
which busts the test, sadly, as Lounge threads don't show on Latest page, but we got our unrec to prove the point
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x9191058
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:14 PM
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34. And then the mods moved the topic!
:rofl:
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:36 PM
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5. Before you know it, the un-rec feature
will become moot because it doesn't do what it was designed to do. However no one really comes out ahead. No one benefits and no one is hurt by it. It's a meaningless effort now.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:38 PM
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7. Not sure what they were thinking by implementing it
Seems to be a source of drama more than anything else
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:11 PM
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31. I think it was either a nod to the trolls (God knows why)...
or our admins are trolls themselves. Why would you implement a feature that gives more power to the trolls but doesn't really empower anybody else? When there was only a rec feature, trolls were virtually powerless because they weren't going to rec the more progressive/liberal threads and there weren't many conservative threads to rec. Now, they have power, because we implemented a feature that really only gives power to the people who want to unrec progressive/liberal threads. Sure, you can say it can be used on all threads, but this is DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND. It's not like it's 50/50 conservative/liberal threads.

The admins are pretty foolish. But they're so disconnected from what they created at this point no one should be surprised.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:37 PM
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6. I don't understand why we can't wreck ourselves?
Seriously though, I never use to use the feature. thought it was unkind and could be used as anonymous personal attacks, as you have pointed out.

then I started to use it to get back at the fuckers who I felt were abusing it.

But honestly, I do wish it would go. If you don't like a thread, don't rec it. It was much better that way.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:38 PM
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8. Anonymous hit and run.
It is for cowards. That's why I don't do it. If I disagree with someone, I try to leave an explanation.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:40 PM
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9. I've nevefr used it and never will. You are spot on, S. nt
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:40 PM
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10. I didn't mind it until my post about the 4 Year old needing bone marrow
was unreced. I kept thinking...what are they saying....do they want her to die?

When it's not as important as that, I don't care....but we have some really cold and hateful people here.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:46 PM
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15.  Unrec'ing a kid who needs bone marrow????
:wtf:

They were unrec'ing nadin's earthquake thread. All she said was that she and her pets felt the earthquake down in San Diego. Why anyone would unrec that is beyond me.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:51 PM
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19. I saw TB' thread almost as soon as it appeared and before I could type a short response,
it had been unrecced more than once.

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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:55 PM
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25. Mean, cold and harsh - but I tell myself it's just freepers coming over
to disrupt...even though I know that probably is not true.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:08 PM
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30. I'm thinking we just have a bunch of malcontents and stupid basement dwellers
who think it's funny to unrec a bone marrow thread. Jeez.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:52 PM
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22. they dont even read the posts..nt
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:41 PM
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11. Kicked and Recommended N/T
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:41 PM
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12. It's gotten so that every time someone unrecs five step in to rec
So it defeats whatever purpose the unrec'er thought he/she was working towards.

I refuse to ever unrec, though I've wanted to. But I'm a firm believer in not doing what you want to all the time, especially when you can and get away with it. It's become a matter of principal. If I don't like the thread I leave. But if the thread is good and I think others should have the opportunity to see it I will rec.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:46 PM
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14. I wish it would show how many unrecs as well as recs a thread gets. nt
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:54 PM
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24. its possible by going to a separate front page which ive never been able to find
since a mod sent the link after i complained about the same thing

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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:48 PM
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17. I spent a few rec's today
trying to rec posts that were unrec'd by trolls.


But that's because I'm on holiday and bored as hell.


(I walked my dog.)








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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:03 PM
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29. OMG. I'm not a prude at all, but I just literally cringed when I saw that photo of Tiger in
your sig...

Poor Elin and kids. (Not literally "poor", but poor nevertheless.) :(
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:50 PM
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18. I agree
count me out because I do not use UNREC
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:51 PM
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20. Let's all go get rec'd!
Woo hoo!

I'm leaving on a jet plane tomorrow... sorry I won't be around here... things are getting weirder than weird~! hahaha!

Have a great one, Stinky ol' pal, ol' chum!

Oh my bags are packed, I'm ready to go...
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:54 PM
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23. o/~ Eeeevry body must get wrecked o/~
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:52 PM
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21. what is unwreck? or are you talking unrec??? nt
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:55 PM
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26. I won't use it, I hate it. It's like a drive by shooting and it's disrespectful of DUers. nt
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:59 PM
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27. You do understand that the person who does this simply gets a thrill from people
commenting on the unrec? Keep in mind they've only got one, and if that's how they get their jollies, then let 'em.

I'm continually amazed that people are SO BOTHERED by an unrec that they are compelled to then post in response

"I can't believe someone unrec'd this OP!!!11!"

Well, believe it. Just cracks me up.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:01 PM
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28. Maybe posters should have a limited amount
of unrecommends per-day like 5 or something, that might help.
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:16 PM
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35. Yes, maybe 5 rec and 5 unrec or 5 recs and no unrecs like it used to be.
But I can't imagine anyone unrecing a post about a sick child. :( :( :(
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:43 AM
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54. As long as they have a limited number of recs
I would be cool with that.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:14 PM
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33. Either there was an INCREDIBLE coincidence or a gang just acted on some urgent PMs
The rec count for this thread went from 10 to 5 like *that*.

I'm betting against the possibility of a coincidence.

Hi morons. :hi:
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 04:49 AM
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40. And back to 8
So all their hard work was for nought.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 05:02 AM
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41. I'm of the opinion that some of these so-called "gangs" are one person- with a drawer full o' socks.


The shall-remain-nameless individual(s) I'm thinking of are apparently sorely in need of a life, and quite probably suffering from a host of mental disorders to boot...

given the amount of time/energy they expend on their (its?) weird, elaborate charade.

So these multiple unrecs may not represent all that many actual, separate human beings.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:19 PM
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36. Drama bait
Alerting...

:)
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:27 PM
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37. ...
:smooooooch:

:)
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:34 PM
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38. kick
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:38 PM
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39. K & R ...for the Stinky thing.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 05:05 AM
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42. I'll hit ya a rec
I think the whole deal is stupid and the only thing I'm fairly sure of is that the same names that wanted it were crying in their beer after about a week and I suspect they may now just unrec like farming spawn in a video game or something.

I'm thinking the whole cycle is created and maintained by the same whiny self important punks. The attempted tyranny of a jacked up minority or something like that.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 05:12 AM
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43. All my shit gets unre'ced,
automatically.

I said "hello" and nothing else in a thread,
and that shit was at zeroed out quick!

Only when it got moved to the lounge did it come back
in positive territory.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=9177708&mesg_id=9177708
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 05:38 AM
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47. FWIW you and I disagree a lot but I've never found you disagreeable..
I don't think I've ever unrecced a thread of yours, I don't do it much anyway.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 05:41 AM
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48. Oh...I don't know who's doing it......cause I can't see them.
Edited on Thu Dec-31-09 05:44 AM by FrenchieCat
But just about every single one of my threads go to <0 just like that.

I will say that I don't really care. If it helps those who do it feel better
and more in control of their lives, so be it. Glad I can help out, actually. :)

At the end of the day, it's just a thread.
I look at how many views....cause that's more telling....
and in the end, I'm writing for folks to read what I have to say,
not so much to find folks that agree exactly with me. That's just talking to the choir,
and that isn't how minds are changed.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 05:48 AM
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50. I know.. I just wanted you to know that not everyone who disagrees with you..
Thinks you are a bad person..

Actually I think you are a better and less cynical person than myself.. Or at least your online persona is such.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 05:14 AM
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44. I find posts like yours pathetic. I mean, really, who gives a fuck?
I don't care if people unrec an op of mine, and it happens virtually every time. Do I love the rec/unrec system? No, but it's a minor thing. The fault, btw, lies squarely with the admin. Their system.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 05:35 AM
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46. I don't have that unrec problem myself..
But I can see how it could get irksome when it's clearly personality based (and I do think it's often clearly that way).

There are quite a few DUers who apparently get a lot or even most of their social contact here, I know if it wasn't for my family I'd fall into that category myself since I really have no one else to interact with IRL any more. Being out of work for well over a year now and divorced very nearly a year has basically lost me the few friends I once had.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:47 AM
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55. When one takes the time to talk (online) to people, one quickly discovers how common your story is
This is real social interaction, but without the face to face. For many it IS their social interaction. When you get some people just hellbent to piss on what they say, it is an insult and in some ways isolating. I'll bet it is easy to think "everyone hates me" kind of thoughts.

There are many reasons someone might use this as their primary social outlet ..... you named but a few.

The infirmed, those who have no family close by, those who live alone for any reason, those who live in some group situation but are still basically alone, even married couples where they work different shifts. And that just scratches the surface.

To come here, take the time to say something, then see it immediately slapped at by some anonymous online punk can actually hurt some people. Since the online punk doesn't see that, the online punk just continues to do it unchecked.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:38 AM
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51. Clearly, you give a fuck
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 05:28 AM
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45. Apparently I'm doing something wrong..
I don't get unrecced all that often and I'm quite surprised at how many recs I get sometimes. Since I never go to the greatest page it makes not much of a never mind to me either way.

I used to draw fire damn near every time I posted, I'm not sure if I'm mellowing out or the rest of DU is starting to come around to somewhere closer to my viewpoint.

Things that make you go "hmm?"..

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 05:46 AM
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49. This is getting old.
The unrec feature is here to stay, or at least the admin says at this point.

"I don't care what side you're on ...but if you're one of the first-seconds-a-post-is-up anonymous unwreckers, you're pathetic. You're juvenile. And you're petty because, for most of you who do this, you're doing it against the poster and not the post."

How is this any different than those who blindly recommend posts in "the first-seconds-a-post-is-up?" How many people recommend a post because of the poster as opposed to what has been posted?

I look at the inclusion of the un-recommend feature as an expression of the nature of the site; vote on what should or shouldn't be on the greatest page. Does it matter if someone is "voting for" or "voting against" a topic (in the most basic terms)? I agree, some do abuse the unrec feature, as much as those who abuse the rec feature. Recommending a post based on the poster is as stupid (and juvenile) as un-recommending a post based on the poster. So, what is the real purpose of the recommend feature? Once that is defined, then the un-recommend feature is so defined and posts, such as yours, will be more valid.


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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:39 AM
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52. Unrec
:rofl:
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:42 AM
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53. Unrec for yet more unrec whining. Put away your sanctimony, it's boring. (nt)
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:50 AM
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56. As if I give a shit what you think
How much of what was said is a reflection of you?
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OregonBi Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 05:00 PM
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58. I have been out of the country in Dubai..
..working with my partner. I have occasionally checked in her but was hesitant to post since my partner's employer and the local internet provider always monitor computer usages. I am back home now with my mate and a 3rd partner from Kuwait so we are free to post at will and engage.

I love everything you post Mr. Clown and fully support your posts!

Keep it up - your intellect motivates me.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 05:03 PM
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59. Woohoo! I Recc'd you back up to Zero!
Yeeeeesh. Things are a leetle strange around here these days.

Hekate
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