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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 07:54 AM
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Just a reminder, in situations like this, we (DU) are being watched
and the most inflammatory posts will be cherry picked and highlighted for political gain to intensify the base that is solidly against anything you stand for and to sway independents that the left, represented by DU, has crossed the line. I'm sure many will disagree, but I'll ask, what's the point of giving them the rhetoric they're searching for? What does it accomplish?
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Skitzer Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 07:55 AM
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1. we (DU) are being watched
Well said.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:27 AM
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:36 AM
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47. Oh, dear, your dandruff problem is getting worse; call your doc, wouldja? nt
Edited on Thu Dec-31-09 10:48 AM by blondeatlast
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 07:55 AM
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2. You Are Going To Get Pilloried
:popcorn:
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 07:57 AM
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3. Far too many simply don't care and too many want to behave like the freepers
just from the opposite side, which in their eyes makes it ok.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:26 AM
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13. You are just way overly sensitive
get over it that we don't wish the pedophile well, m'k
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:12 AM
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30. The paranoia could certainly remind one of the "Freepers" . . . !!!
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:30 AM
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35. Some of us are not going to pretend to be sad.
We don't pray for people to die, because that is evil.

We don't hope for people to die, because that is useless.

But if a very bad person does die, we are not going to pretend that his death is a great loss, because that is hypocrisy.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:31 AM
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45. Well said--and dark humor is a survival instinct. nt
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:56 AM
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57. Well said!
Edited on Thu Dec-31-09 11:57 AM by Zenlitened
...if a very bad person does die, we are not going to pretend that his death is a great loss, because that is hypocrisy.


:applause:

I would go one step further and add that when a truly toxic, poisonous-to-society person dies, the world becomes a measurably better place.

Is this POV subjective? Not entirely, no. Certainly not to the degree that some moral nihilists claim.

It is entirely possible to sift through facts of a person's life, of their impact on community, on society, on the national discourse... and reach a quite objective conclusion about that person.

In other words: How a person lives his or her life matters. That's just a fact, and it will inevitably have a bearing on how people comment on that person's passing.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 12:39 PM
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61. This exact sentiment is found on religious fundamentalist sites worldwide.
Do you know how many people feel this way about assassinations and/or deaths of abortion providers, to cite just one example?
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 12:52 PM
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67. I would say the difference lies in their (in)capacity to be objective.
In other words, these are people incapable of stepping outside their own narrow mindsets and taking a truly objective view.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 07:58 AM
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4. Oh geez....we b so afr8
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 07:59 AM
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5. so tell us what everybody is supposed to say, then--I promise not to "deviate"
:eyes:
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:03 AM
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7. you be gud soldier
I'll try to follow suit....:rofl:
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:09 AM
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8. lol! did you get your script yet? (nt)
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placton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:42 PM
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71. be gud or no turkee for you n/t
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:03 AM
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6. So?
"Be careful what you say!" Hmmm . . . where have I heard that before? What's the point? It's called the First Amendment. Feel free to read it.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:44 AM
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51. perhaps you have heard this one before
"It is better to keep silent and let them think you are a fool, than to open your mouth and prove it for them"


you could also substitute "have no class" or "are full of hate" for "fool"



That's the point, there's no trial, and no prosecution, except in the court of public opinion. Some of us, though, do the same thing to them, finding signs at rallies or posts at FReeperville that prove that the other side is full of racists, idiots and just all around nasty boys, nasty boys.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:33 AM
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53. And some have an agenda
that they hide behind "outrage." You're transparent.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:54 AM
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55. I do have an agenda
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:10 AM
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9. being watched? oh, my! whatever will we do?
does my hair look ok? (clutches pearls).
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:40 AM
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21. "clutches pearls."
:rofl: That literally made me LOL.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:33 AM
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46. If it's okay with the nanny, I'd like to giggle at that!
Oh, heck... :rofl:
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 12:47 PM
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64. Remeber what Fliecsher used to say
Watch what you say!!!
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:14 AM
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10. Good tell our elected officials to behave themselves
Edited on Thu Dec-31-09 08:14 AM by AllentownJake
They are being watched. I want them to have a healthy fear that bad behavior can result in them losing their jobs, even if it is to a nut job.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:19 AM
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11. the problem is that they will no matter what we do.
If they want fodder they will just create it.
I know for sure because I have had a right winger post a quote from DU that was inflammatory and supported his position
When I went the link it said Message removed by the moderator.
I believe the truth is that he himself created it and then used it.

We have to trust each other to not cross the line, and then we have to trust the moderators that do such a important and difficult job.
We can police ourselves and not fear the freeper.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:30 AM
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17. Amen!
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:23 AM
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12. Anyone picking anything from here for political gain is already a looser
why worry with that kind of scum anyway?
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:39 PM
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68. haha . two sides to that statement. n/t
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:27 AM
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15. I still won't switch to Geico!
:dunce:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:28 AM
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16. In that case, maybe I'll weigh in.
Continual hate and bigotry not only burdens the mind and tears at the soul, it affects physical well being. There can be no surprise that a purveyor of negativity finds himself in a hospital on New Year's Eve.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:18 AM
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33. +100
A DUer who gets it. Obsessing on him only gives him importance.
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Piwi2009 Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:32 AM
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18. We are being watched - the rightwads will use it against us if
we aren't "tolerant" or "understanding."

We are tolerating the jokes and understanding the glee.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:37 AM
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19. You mean just anybody can come in and read this stuff?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:37 AM
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20. So you think the corncobs and mouth breathers over there
actually give a shit about what we have to say? You really are naive.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:55 AM
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22. ...
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:57 AM
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23. FEAR! ...agent Mike is watching too
Edited on Thu Dec-31-09 08:57 AM by L0oniX
:eyes:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:57 AM
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24. they're watching all the time....du is great because it allows diversity of opinion
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StarfarerBill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:00 AM
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25. So? We're going to get grief no matter what we say, so we may as well speak our minds and hearts.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:05 AM
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26. Good
Seems like there's a cottage industry these days of sites that love to cut and paste DU stuff...do their own "commentary". Talk about circle jerking. :rofl:
But then again, keeps the little animals in many communities safe.

There are some excellent posters here on DU that are well worth others seeing.

Trust me, we've seen the scumbags in those cesspools lie and distort no matter who says what...and what has it accomplished? According to my knowledge Democrats are the majority party...period. Even if they lose the House (which they won't) or the Senate (which will be even harder for them), they're still the minority...in ideas, in the ability to accept responsibility and deal with reality and, most importantly, with votes.

Let them "intensify" all they want. Let them whip themselves into never-ending poutrage and unhinge themselves further and further from the real mainstream and levers of power.

In short: Fuck 'em.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:08 AM
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27. Pissonem



They have enough to do just keeping what remains of their
party from falling apart any more than it already has.





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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:10 AM
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28. If the mods are concerned, they can remove the posts.
It is their board and their prerogative. God knows they remove other, far less offending threads.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:11 AM
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29. Rather than worrying about being watched, worry about the truth . . . and telling it --
Edited on Thu Dec-31-09 09:21 AM by defendandprotect
even when it may be HARSHLY critical of Democrats!!

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) says he has the votes for a public option, but he’s just not sure he wants one. Call Democratic voters in Nevada and ask them to tell Harry Reid to include the public option in health care reform.

http://action.firedoglake.com/page/content/warroom/

That truth about the Democratic party is why we see attempts to muzzle those who criticize the

the party and its leaders!
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:16 AM
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31. ding ding ding we have a winner
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:17 AM
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32. So what? It's a public access forum, right? nt.
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:28 AM
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34. OTHER people read this?? Cool!
Here's hoping for Rush's imminent demise AND the bankruptcy of Saddleback church........


It might be a happy new year after all!
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:30 AM
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36. I knew DU had web cams you better turn yours off
because you are naked
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:31 AM
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37. So we should sit down and shut up to "keep up appearances"?
Good god, you sound like my mother.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:31 AM
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38. Not just situations like this; there are those who watch us 24/7
Nothing better to do but troll here.

I consider it a public service to use good grammar and correct spelling, in the hope that they may profit from their time here. :patriot:
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:34 AM
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39. um ... DU and the like
are always being watched ...

constantly used as proof of how we hate "real" americans ...

but have people call for the k*lling of Obama on a more mainstream blog, and nobody shuts down the poster, where's the outcry?
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:38 AM
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40. RW nuts cherry picking...
IMO, they'll even do their cherry-picking from the most innocent and non-inflammatory things, so what's the difference?

No matter what we say, it'll become "ammunition" for them.


So if they're watching and cherry picking anyway, why not give them something that'll really put the biting ants into their skivvies....



Or else we can all just sit around and discuss our latest knitting projects...

:+

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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:41 AM
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41. No more or less now than at any other time. Google your screen name, see for yourself
Yes, the things you say get picked up by the right wing and often used to their ends. So what? Say what you think.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:42 AM
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42. We're being watched? Uh-oh. Hey everyone -- change out of your
jammies and into street clothes.

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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:28 AM
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43. It is against the board rules to advocate death to somebody
"Do not post messages that advocate harm or death to anyone, threaten the livelihood of anyone, or otherwise harass anyone."

As much as I hate Rush, and I do hate him, I could never wish death on anybody. Loss of voice, sure, I hope he loses his voice, or ends up sounding like Donald Duck. But as much as I don't like him, I could never wish death to him. Keep it classy DU
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:30 AM
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44. So we are supposed to be afraid of them? nt
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:40 AM
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48. Fine - here's my response
I don't care what Ridge or Cheney say. I even take issue with what Obama says. We are not at war.

There has been no declaration of war from Congress. We're in the midst of an indefinite police action in the Middle East that we're trying to prosecute as criminal activity when it lands on US soil.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:42 AM
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50. Hi, Mom!
:hi:
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:41 AM
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49. And guess who will make the most inflammatory post do you think?
My guess the trolls are already hard at it..
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:08 AM
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52. Do you think these shorts make my balls look small?
Hey, hey, hey, hey-now. Don't be mean; we don't have to be mean, cuz, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:35 AM
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54. Good, I hope the DEMS see
how angry, frustrated and disappointed some here are. Not sure what good it will do, though. They're all in it for themselves and not the American people.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:55 AM
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56. *waves at the freepers*
Why bother when they take everything out of context anyway?
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:56 AM
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58. Oh yeah, Americans had better watch what they say and watch what they do
I remember hearing that and I remember who I heard it from too.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:59 AM
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59. OO








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WT Fuheck Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 12:01 PM
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60. They'll make up our rhetoric if we don't.
They are against us, and it makes zero difference what we say or don't say.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 12:43 PM
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62. See adoctor about that skin problem; it's getting worse. nt
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 12:46 PM
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63. I am not worried
The racism has been flowing from the right with increasing intensity since Obama was elected. This will do nothing but hurt the republicans. The only hope the conservatives have is if they get a black candidate to run against Obama...and that is just simply not going to happen.
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optimator Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 12:47 PM
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65. unlike Dem politicians, I don't give a fuck what republicans think
I Don't seek approval or validation from republicans.
I don't apologize for my beliefs.


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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 12:49 PM
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66. If only the mysterious they that watch could smell
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Gaywoman Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:40 PM
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69. Thanks.
Good to know!
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placton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:41 PM
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70. yeppers
let's just shut our mouths-for the team :sarcasm:
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