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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:33 AM
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Report Says ACORN Didn't Commit Voter Fraud or Misuse Federal Funding
Edited on Thu Dec-31-09 09:36 AM by annabanana
(not a surprise to most of us here)

I'm wondering how much of this report gets a mention on corpo-TV

http://www.truthout.org/1230091

The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) did not commit voter fraud, and it didn't misuse federal funding in the last five years, according to a recently released report prepared by the Congressional Research Service (CRS), a nonpartisan investigational arm of Congress.

Among its findings, CRS also reported that recently enacted federal legislation to prohibit funding to ACORN raises significant constitutional concerns. The report said courts "may have a sufficient basis" to conclude that the legislation "violates the prohibition against bills of attainder." Also, concerning recent "sting" operations related to ACORN, although state laws vary, two states, Maryland and California, "appear to ban private recording of face to face conversations absent the consent of all the participants," the report said.

The CRS report was requested by House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers Jr. (D-Michigan) and House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank in September.

"There were no instances of individuals who were allegedly registered to vote improperly by ACORN or its employees and who were reported attempting to vote at the polls," the CRS report states..
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:36 AM
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1. This has been stated many time throughout this year
And ACORN has actually helped get the few people who participated in registration fraud.

This will probably fall on deaf ears.

K&R anyway, though.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:41 AM
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2. Yeah. Most intelligent people like Democrats can read this but
republicans can't seem to comprehend the truth. So what's new. The spin master at work drudge the crudge says ACORN CEO visits Obama before the video sting...look, look, look. Well what of it. Did Amaroff or whatever his name was visit the white house and bush myriad times before he was caught in all that fraud, greed and breaking of the law. Yep the press got hold of the visits but the white house wouldn't release or verify anything. So what does drudge do, make it seem as if it was a crime.

It is such a shame someone doesn't have the authority to go around and stick at sock of it, into the mouth of those that spew it.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:21 AM
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3. Agreed, but they are still a highly partisan group...
and we shouldn't be supporting government money for partisan groups, regardless of which side they support.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:19 AM
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4. excuse me?
Edited on Thu Dec-31-09 11:25 AM by annabanana
They advocate for the poor and powerless. There may be a preference for progressivism among its beneficiaries, but that could also be accounted for by the fact that conservatives and republicans NEVER DO ANYTHING OF SUBSTANCE for the weakest among us.

On edit: just how "newtothegame" are you?
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:28 AM
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7. Your statement could read the exact same way about churches.
Edited on Thu Dec-31-09 11:30 AM by newtothegame
They advocate for the poor and powerless (a local church here just raised $50,000 over the holidays for food banks in surrounding counties). There may be a preference for progressivism among its beneficiaries, but that could also be accounted for by the fact that conservatives and republicans NEVER DO ANYTHING OF SUBSTANCE for the weakest among us. (There may be a preference for conservatism amongst a church's beneficiaries, but that could also be accounted for by the fact that liberals and democrats constantly rail against the church, its non-profit status, and its position on gays and abortion).

We rail against churches, and they don't even get a ton of money from the government, they just don't pay anything in taxes for their donations. All 501c3's are that way though. ACORN actually gets funding from the government. My point is, see how easily an argument like the one you made could be turned around on us? I'm not defending the churches, as I have no organized religion myself. But I am saying that we have to maintain some credibility when making these arguments.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:41 AM
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8. ACORN doesn't espouse any belief system.
Nor do they apply any "deserving/undeserving poor" scale on those they assist.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:24 AM
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5. They work to make sure the system works for everyone
Now, of course, that's appears pretty partisan to a person for whom the system works at the expense of several thousand or even several million others. However, I think it's safe to say that the apparatus of government should work for more than just the wealthy and well-connected. The wealthy and well-connected would surely disagree, since they've invested so much in slamming the door on others.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:43 AM
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9. ACORN is not a partisan group. n/t
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 12:03 PM
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12. You should check your facts on that.
Not a partisan group, but certainly the target of a partisan attack.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:26 AM
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6. "But, but. .they are mostly black folks, right?" The whole thing was transparently racist.
INCLUDING the media coverage AND the mass-caving of our "Democratic" representatives.

A shameful episode.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:52 AM
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10. Your observation, while correct, exceeds the comprehension level of most Americans. (nt)
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 12:02 PM
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11. Sad but probably true.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 12:16 PM
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13. The lie about ACORN regarding election fraud
is still being disseminated, most notably by people like Sean Hannity. ACORN is used to being slammed by the right and they are fighters.

The partisan, lying twerps who went after them most recently should have known that ACORN would not lie down and take it. They are now being sued which i hope will force them to have to produce their edited videos in a courtroom where they cannot lie as easily as they did on Fox News.

ACORN also sued Congress for their shameful display of unConstitutional prejudice and won.

I hope now that they have this ruling, they will sue Fox and I'm sure there are lots of people who would be more than willing to donate to such a cause.

McCain, who once praised the work ACORN does, joined the mob on the right during the campaign to continue to perpetuate that lie. He owes them an apology now.

But from the beginning, people like Brad from Bradblog among others, proved over and over that the claims were false, yet the MSM continued to spread the lies.

I hope ACORN attorneys pressured them now to retract those lies and to give as much attention to the truth as they did to the lies.

And we're still waiting to hear Congress explain how they came to go along with something that has now be ruled as unConstitutional. It's absolutely incredible that only a few, two airc, Democrats, Jerry Nadler and Alan Grayson actually knows the Constitution they were sworn to protect.

Good for ACORN, but I feel sad that Democrats were so willing to abandon them and that they had to fight without much support from the people they helped to elect. Democrats should have been outraged by the false charges, knopwing full well where they were coming from, instead they joined the rabid rightwing and helped to smear an organization that has done more good than most people in this country, for the voiceless.
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