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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:47 AM
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A victory for honey bees!!!
NEW YORK (December 29, 2009) – A pesticide that could be dangerously toxic to America’s honey bees must be pulled from store shelves as a result of a suit filed by the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) and the Xerces Society. In an order issued last week, a federal court in New York invalidated EPA’s approval of the pesticide spirotetramat (manufactured by Bayer CropScience under the trade names Movento and Ultor) and ordered the agency to reevaluate the chemical in compliance with the law. The court’s order goes into effect on January 15, 2010, and makes future sales of Movento illegal in the United States.


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601100&sid=awNvfcIKf4AY
Bayer ‘Disappointed’ in Ruling on Chemical That May Harm Bees
Dec. 29 (Bloomberg) -- A Bayer AG unit is “disappointed” by a U.S.
judge’s ruling that may prevent distribution of its spirotetramat insecticide, a spokesman said. Environmental groups say the chemical causes harm to honey bees.

Spirotetramat, sold under various names including Movento, was approved for use in the U.S. last year, even though the agency was aware of its potential harm to bees, Cote said. The Natural Resources Defense Council, an environmental organization in New York, and the Xerces Society, a Portland, Oregon, a wildlife conservation group, challenged the EPA’s actions.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:48 AM
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1. BZZZZ!
K & R!
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:51 AM
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2. BZZZZZ! Go Jackets! Sting'em!


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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:06 PM
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25. 30-24

Nov. 28, 2009. :evilgrin:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:58 AM
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3. Thanks for the good news!
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:59 AM
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4. this is very good news! nt
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:07 AM
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5. Thank goodness! I love those busy buzzy furry critters. And we NEED them!
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:07 AM
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6. Go Bees!
:loveya:
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66 dmhlt Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 09:15 AM
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46. Well, this definitely calls for a "Waggle Dance"



The waggle dance is used to communicate the location of food sources more than 35 yards away.

The dance consists of two loops with a straight run in the middle. The direction of the straight run determines the direction of the food source.

The rate of looping and duration of buzzing indicate the distance to the food supply.


Source: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/bees/danceswagg.html
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:17 AM
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7. Why should chemists care about bees pollination and the need for honey
they only care about killing and profits. I'll never take one of their aspirin again.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:28 AM
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8. An important victory. May there bee more. n/t
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:33 AM
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9. oh yeah! Bayer is a holdover
from Nazi Germany. May they crumble and go away this coming decade. Along with Monsanto.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:53 AM
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13. Excellent point. Another strike against the Nazis and their legacy.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:35 AM
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10. Yay Xerces Society!
You can help contribute to more work like this here: http://www.xerces.org/

Join up or buy some of the cool books they have at their store.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:49 AM
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11. i heard somewhere the bees got a court order to stop us from making honey in bee concentration camps
now where did i hear that? hmmmm.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:52 AM
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12. This will annoy citrus growers and others who use the insecticide, but on the whole...
...it's a good thing.

Needless to say, this chemical is not responsible for colony collapse disorder, but it's probably one we need to reel in.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:23 AM
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14. They'll be a lot more annoyed if there are no bees to pollinate their crops. n/t
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 12:46 PM
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15. That really isn't a likely result of the use of that chemical.
And bees are not the only pollinators around.

One of the more curious aspects of the discussion around the protection of bees is lack of focus on the monoculture approach to both the crops and the bees themselves. Those who commercially pollinate traditionally use a single species year after year. This has never been a sustainable approach.

Taking this chemical off the shelf, however, is a step in the right direction.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:08 PM
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16. I didn't say it was. There's no one cause for CCD.
No bees aren't the only ones, but they are among the most efficient.

What other pollinator can be transported besides A. mellifera?
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 05:47 PM
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17. Our HoneyBees celebrate a small step in the right direction.
All non naturally occurring pesticides, herbicides, & fertilizers permanently banned on our little hill top, along with all GM Crops and animal feed containing hormones, antibiotics, steroids, or other contaminants.
The Bees seem happy, healthy, and productive, and their honey is the best.




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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 02:18 AM
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36. Isn't she beautiful?
Wondrous little creatures they are.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 07:37 AM
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44. Gathering food for the babies, bless her.
Pollen basket on hind leg.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 06:07 PM
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18. Pooh is smiling nt
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 06:19 PM
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19. Great news! K&R!
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 06:22 PM
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20. I'm allergic to bee stings....
But I looove honey! :9
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 06:24 PM
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21. Losing the honey bees would be a disaster of biblical proportions.
It would be an end to life on earth as we know it. The bees must be protected.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 06:25 PM
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22. It's a damned good start.
Everything has been going against the poor honeybee for the past three decades, it's good to see them win one once in a while.
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PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 06:51 PM
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23. I just hope
Edited on Thu Dec-31-09 06:51 PM by PSzymeczek
they stay away from me and our hummingbird feeders. I'm highly allergic when stung.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 07:49 PM
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24. K&R
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:13 PM
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26. KnR
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:55 PM
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27. That is good news. I live in nursery country and they use allot of
sprays you don't know what it is. My mother-in-law use to have a bunch of beehives but slowly the bees died out because of all the spraying. Now they are all gone so she stopped doing it a long while back.
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onestepforward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:21 PM
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28. Great news! We sure need those little guys!
They are having a hard enough time already.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:58 PM
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29. We need more of these decisions
if the health of the public matters to anyone.
EPA needs a kick in the ass like this more often.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 12:48 AM
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30. Woot!
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 01:05 AM
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31. Bee-yootiful! nt
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 01:36 AM
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32. Great news!!!!!! A victory for Mother Nature...
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1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 01:43 AM
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33. yay bees! bees and wasps used to scare the shit out of me...
until i moved out here to the sticks.

the first year or so they still scared me. always flying directly at my face. with their stingers. wanting to sting me, i thought.

then, after a while, i learned that they are just curious creatures. they fly at me because "hey! look at that big thing. let's check him out."

a bee or wasp has never stung me out of spite, or anger. one was in my boot once when i decided to put the boot on (ouch!) and one flew up the leg of my shorts once and i swatted at him (OUCH!) but in all honesty they are just curious creatures, stinging only when in fear for their lives.

i don't see all that many bees anymore, but brown wasps are all over the place here. they land on me now, walk around (sniffing me as wasps will do) and i just let them. i don't hurt them, they don't hurt me. we have become friends. and! they like to eat spiders like the brown recluse, one bug i don't like.

the bees and wasps and me are all just buds now, and i like that...
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 02:01 AM
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34. K & R for excellent news!!!
1 for bees..
0 for Bayer.

Bayer has been toxic to the world long enough.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 02:09 AM
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35. Yay!
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gorfle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 03:11 AM
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37. Where's the data?
The article provided no data to indicate that the product actually is dangerous to honey bees. Is there a citation?

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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 04:26 AM
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40. Here is the ruling of the Court
The United States Environmental Protection Agency (“EPA” or
“defendant”) registered an insecticide in violation of its
statutory duties to publish notice, invite public comment, and
publish its registration decisions. This case presents the
question of whether the EPA’s registration should be vacated in
light of these defects. It should be.

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In the registration process, the EPA identified concerns
about the insecticide’s effect on bees. The EPA’s review of
tests exposing honeybees to spirotetramat found, inter alia,
“increased mortality in adults and pupae, massive perturbation
of brood development, early brood development, and decreased
larval abundance.” The EPA further found that insecticides that
inhibit lipid biosynthesis have “potential for chronic effects
on bee broods and development” and “may adversely affect bee
broods and development;” and in 2007 the EPA found there is
“uncertainty regarding the potential chronic effects of
spirotetramat on pollinators because no long-term data were
available.” By the time the EPA made its registration decision
in June 2008, it had reviewed additional studies on
spirotetramat’s chronic effect on bees, but it still found the
data lacking because the chronic effect studies tested
spirotetramat at levels lower than the label-recommended
application rate.

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The EPA’s risk assessment of spirotetramat found:
Despite that the intrinsic hazard potential to bees
based on the acute oral and contact studies with
honey bees appears to be low, brood feeding tests
with bees and acute toxicity contact studies with
other nontarget insects (e.g. parasitoid wasps and
predatory mites) conducted at less than the maximum
application rate suggest there is potential for
mortality in adults and pupae, massive perturbation
of brood development, and early brood termination as
a result of spirotetramat use. This information,
coupled with the fact that two other chemicals
representing the ketoenole class of compounds
(spiromesifen and spirodiclofen) have also
demonstrated the potential for chronic effects on
bee broods and development while displaying low
acute toxicity, suggests that the mode of action of

snip

This product is potentially toxic to honey bee
larvae through residues in pollen and nectar, but
not to adult honey bees. Exposure of adult bees to
direct treatment or residues on blooming crops can
lead to effects on honey bee larvae. See the
"Directions for Use" section of this label for
specific crop application instructions that minimize
risk to honey bee larvae.

link:
http://docs.nrdc.org/wildlife/files/wil_09122901a.pdf
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gorfle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 06:00 AM
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41. Thanks for the info.
Looks like this is, indeed, bad stuff.

Steve
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 03:41 AM
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38. Hurray for the bees! nt
:bounce:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 03:46 AM
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39. Yay for the BEEEEZZZZZ!!!
I LOVES me some bees.
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 07:10 AM
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42. Poison bad/ Organic good
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greenbird Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 07:26 AM
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43. Good news.
Last season I saw more bees here than I have in a long while. I get stung a couple of times a year, but by yellow jackets and hornets, not honeybees. Seeing a honeybee on clover just makes me smile . . .
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 09:13 AM
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45. Bayer disappointed? Apparently money is more important than food.
No bees, no fruits and veggies. Last year I saw a grand total of 1 honey bee in my garden. Fortunately, the bumble bees seemed to pick up the slack on everything but the summer squash.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 09:20 AM
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47. K & R
for one of the most beneficial creatures on earth.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 09:45 AM
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48. "May be" . .. ??? We may come to understand why the ancients worshipped the Honey Bee--!! ....
My gratitude to the Honey Bees!!

Thank you Mother Nature -- !!



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