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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:06 PM
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CIA employees or CIA agents?
Casualties in ME bombing are described as "employees". Anyone else find that odd?
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:08 PM
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1. Not if they're a group contracted to the CIA. you know the Xe type?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:10 PM
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2. When I heard about this bombing, that was my first thought
But I have heard "employees" all morning. Seems like they would be called contractors if they are with Xe.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:13 PM
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4. it seems like it, but I'm not sure this admin wants to be as open in regards to their
use of mercenaries as the last administration was. After all Blackwater has had some bad press lately.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:12 PM
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3. One was the station chief so you can probably assume it's one and the same.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:15 PM
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5. The way our MSM play with language
It's so transparent.
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sorcrow Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:16 PM
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6. I don't find it odd.
I don't find it odd. Not all CIA employees are "agents". And even the ones who are/were are not likely to be identified as such. (Except for Valerie Plame....)
The casualties may well be agents/operatives, but nobody's going to tell us.

Crow
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:18 PM
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7. One was head of station
so I'm not sure.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:19 PM
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8. And who decided to call them "employees" instead of "agents"?
The MSM or the govt?
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:35 PM
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12. initial reports was that they were civilians
Edited on Thu Dec-31-09 01:36 PM by notadmblnd
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 02:04 PM
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13. Not sure
Very interesting.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 04:51 PM
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18. Likely the CIA, they don't want people to think groups of 4-6-8 "agents" are just standing round...
in one location waiting to get bombed - seems they would prefer people think the "agents" are off somewhere else sight unseen and not standing in line at a green zone KBR Burger King for that matter. For the CIA to admit they were agents, is to admit their agents were caught the most flat-footed in the field - and that's not good for budget process
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:19 PM
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9. black waters run deep.
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:20 PM
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10. It could have been a mix of both really
Could be agents, administrators, even office assistants. Not all employees at the CIA are what people would call agents. The majority would be support staff, I would think.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:29 PM
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11. 'CIA agents' is a subset of 'CIA employees'.
The Station Chief, the information analyst, are employees but not agents. Actually, many if not most agents would not be claimed by the CIA as employees - such as the State Department official, the import/export businessman who are covert agents while having a distinctly different public face.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 04:17 PM
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14. Agents are field operators--think James Bond
Employees are analysts, scientists, technical people,and senior staff.

If you don't know what status they had, it's best to say "employees." All agents are employees, but not all employees are agents.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 04:20 PM
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15. Not everyone that works for the CIA is an "agent".
It's just like any other company, there are a ton of beurocrats, middle men, and people preforming tasks that aren't directly related to operations.
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phasma ex machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 04:36 PM
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16. +1 Anonymous sources claim that 90+% of CIA employees work 9-5 desk jobs in the USA
"spying" from satellites, eating donuts, and waiting to retire. The CIA's core competency is playing Democrats off against Republicans. Entrepreneurial senior managers who master that game often set themselves up as DC Beltway contractors to pull down multi-millions a year. What that money actually buys remains a Top Secret, naturally.

Yet another example of reality totally at odds with M$M's "sexed up" fantasy.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 04:41 PM
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17. Potato/Potato. (n/t)
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