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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:49 PM
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Is there a feminist TV station?
Don't give me Lifetime... They're only good for sappy melodramas

Where is good TV for and by women?
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:52 PM
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1. Not the "O" Network I guess, right?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:52 PM
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2. Tough call. Wait for a Davis or Hepburn festival on TCM.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:55 PM
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3. and
Rosalind Russell!

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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 02:02 PM
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6. Don't forget Barbara Stanwick! eom
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 02:08 PM
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8. You just beat me! I still associate TCM with MGM. I thought I was being inclusive in
naming Davis.

Kudos to Barb!
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 02:39 PM
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13. You got that right. Hepburn and Davis are good. But they have nothing
on Stanwyck. And, I find Stanwyck more entertaining.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 01:58 PM
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4. Oxygen?
Discovery Health is also targeted towards women, but child birth is their main focus.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 02:00 PM
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5. Who the hell unrec'd this? eom
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 02:05 PM
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7. Hell no
Of course not. Folks are too busy watching reruns of "Law and Order SVU" to bother with anything that doesn't involve hot (but dead) chicks.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 02:08 PM
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9. Spike.TV.
Or that channel that runs "Snapped".
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 02:36 PM
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11. Oxygen runs Snapped
Again and again and again and again....
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 02:38 PM
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12. "Spike?" Do you really think a station for women would be called, "Spike?"
:eyes:
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 03:09 PM
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19. D'oh! I was thinking of Crochet Hook.TV.
My bad.
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Gwendolyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 02:19 PM
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10. If women want to watch good tv they have to subscribe to a package, same as the men do.

There are good docs on one channel, great flicks on another, cooking shows on yet another, and so on...

I'm not even sure what a "feminist" tv station would offer since the issues and concerns differ from person to person. Would be great if we could get more television geared toward work opportunities for women out there, but maybe there are and I've just missed them.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 02:41 PM
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14. I don't know about TV but on XM Radio there's Cosmo Radio.
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 02:44 PM
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15. I'm having a very difficult time thinking of Cosmo as feminist
but maybe it's just me. :shrug:
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 02:48 PM
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16. Any TV I've ever seen "made for women"
was so far outside of anything that interests me, it's laughable.

That said, I don't really expect mass media to care about anything more than easy-to-categorize stereotypes - marketing is easier if you don't think of people as individuals.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 03:01 PM
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18. i know they have at least one channel, dont know the name and have never watched.... maybe the men
who own and create these channels are truly clueless and only go off what their male brain THINKS a woman wants to watch
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 03:16 PM
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21. I think the real problem is in defining "women" as a single 'thing'
There are at least a few networks "devoted to women" but I'm pretty sure if you got a dozen women in one room, you'd have at least 15 different areas of interest. Some may overlap (children, god knows what else) but even those wouldn't apply to all (believe it or not, folks, there are women in the world who really just aren't that into children... gasp!)

The problem is, since the default is always male, in an effort to appeal to the female marketers and creative consultants try to grasp on to some generic idea of women's interests forgetting that women are individuals who don't fit some global mold.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 03:19 PM
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22. true that.... i stopped watching tv
Edited on Thu Dec-31-09 03:19 PM by seabeyond
seemed to be a war against women, sick and tired of sitting there not being entertained at womens expense.

i have seen some shows advertised recently that look interesting, but started reading again and havent gotten to point of turning tv on

stewart and colbert, before bed, is about it.
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Gwendolyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 03:23 PM
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23. Guys run into the same issues though. Not all of them are interested in watching...

1000 Ways to Die, or VIP Room, or whatever passes for male viewing fare on Spike or Men. Some like books or the arts, just as women do. Or cooking. Or movies. National Geographic. The male oriented channels are just as bad in that sense. The real marketing scam is that everyone, male and female alike, have to subscribe to 200 channels to get occasionally good teevee combined.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 04:31 PM
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26. Good point.
The good shows, ideas and themes are scattered across the channels.

"1000 Ways to Die, or VIP Room, or whatever passes for male viewing fare on Spike or Men. Some like books or the arts, just as women do"

Or both! I read history and philosophy books before I go to bed but that doesn't mean I didn't enjoy Spike's "Ultimate Warrior" earlier that day. ;-)
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Gwendolyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 05:29 PM
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27. Lol, yep you're absolutely right. My bad on that one!

Plus I forgot to mention cross-pollination too. There's a reason 1000 Ways to Die came to mind right away. ;)
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 02:54 PM
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17. Isn't Lifetime the one that always has movies about
abused spouses who kill their tormentors and usually have Eric Roberts in them?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 08:49 PM
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28. Yes. Really miserable dross. nt
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 03:11 PM
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20. Bravo?
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 03:58 PM
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24. W
Here in Canada, at least. Used to be Big F Feminist, now probably little feminist, I suppose.

Great shows, and men like watching it as well.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 04:03 PM
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25. TNT. Full of female-centric characters
The Closer. Saving Grace. Many of these programs are also written by or produced by women.
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phasma ex machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:00 PM
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29. Some female intellectuals deem Joss Whedon's opus feminist. (Even though he's a guy.)
"Buffy the Vampire Slayer", "Firefly", and "Serenity."
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 09:57 PM
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30. Plenty of feminists (both male and female) are capable of recognizing a man's ability to make
feminist or feminist-friendly work. Just FYI. The idea that all feminists are women are that no feminist believes a man can be one is a common misconception about feminism (even in the modern age).
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