Do not wish for another person to die.

[MineralMan]

It will not affect the outcome, since we each die at the time we die, and not a minute before. However, making such a wish diminishes the person doing the wishing. Such a wish is a negative emotional reaction, and such reactions have a negative effect on the person, perhaps even a physical effect, that may hasten your own death.

Why harm yourself with a wish that accomplishes nothing? It makes no sense.

[Brickbat]

1. I do agree with you. It wastes so much time and energy, IMO, and makes me think less of people who

vocalize their wishes. It really does.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. My dear MineralMan...

I salute your wisdom.

K&R

[MineralMan]

11. Thank you very much for your kind words.

[Arctic Dave]

3. You're right, don't wish for it, plan for it.

:evilgrin:

[Hekate]

4. 5th Rec. Thank you -- and have a happy new year...

:hug:

[MineralMan]

12. A happy new year to you as well. And to everyone who reads

this thread.

[pnwmom]

38. And a happy new year to you! n/t

[rhett o rick]

5. Dang, does that mean Limpbaugh too?

jk

[Alameda]

6. Makes me think of Dorian Gray

Yes, sending out negative thoughts, wishes like that does no good for your soul.

[PSzymeczek]

7. If you're referring to Rush,

I don't wish him to die. However, if he does, understand if I do not shed any tears.

[MineralMan]

13. Your feelings are your own. As such, they own you as well.

[Historic NY]

55. Code Blue.

[gateley]

8. Agree, but I don't think people REALLY wish for another person to actually

die -- they're just voicing their frustration and anger. :shrug:

[MineralMan]

19. Frustration and anger also have negative effects on

the person experiencing them. It is better to direct your energy to countering negative people in a positive way. Nothing you do or feel will affect a stranger's psyche. Everything you do and feel will, however, affect you.

[gateley]

50. I agree with that, too, wholeheartedly. But it isn't always easy. nt

[Hannah Bell]

61. people feel frustration & anger for quite legitimate reasons. your philosophy =

the modern version of church apologetics, i.e. it supports the structure of power.

[MineralMan]

71. OK. That's your opinion, and you're welcome to it.

[Gabi Hayes]

9. oops.... best to most everyone

http://www.bentoboxgifts.com/SHOP/goodkarmaplus/tabid/59/Default.aspx

[Iggo]

10. I don't wish people to die.

However, that gas bag who had a heart attack last night? I'm glad he had a heart attack. And when he dies I'll be glad then, too. But I don't wish it.

[MineralMan]

20. OK. Being glad that someone dies is pretty odd, though.

[bigwillq]

14. I agree.

Good post. :thumbsup: K and R

[DerekG]

15. Cruelty and exploitation diminishes me

I've longed for the deaths of select politicians, officials, and drug dealers, and I see nothing wrong with this whatsoever.

I believe it was Rev. Coffin who said: If you love the good, then you have to hate what is evil. Otherwise, you're just a sentimentalist.

[MineralMan]

23. If Rev. Coffin was a Christian minister, he was speaking

in direct opposition to what Jesus was recorded to having said. Perhaps he needs to re-read Matthew. Perhaps many Christians have that need.

As an atheist, I only consider the effects of my thoughts on myself. I regret any hatred I have felt for any other person. Such feelings did me no good, nor the other person any harm. A worthless exercise. Life is too short.

[DerekG]

36. As an agnostic, I need my indignation

There's probably no god, probably no afterlife, probably just a few decades on this blue marble. And no one has the goddamn right to diminish the short lives of others.

I hope Rush croaks tonight. He'd of lived a lot longer than the average Afghani or Iraqi--whose deaths evinced in him considerable delight, no doubt.

[roguevalley]

56. I know that when his day comes, he will go. and when he gets there

he will have to feel the sorrow and anguish and terror he inspired not only in the people who heard or saw him but in the people they turned around to and interacted with. ripples in the pond. imagine the tidal wave of horror he has to acknowledge. Its his punishment. I don't wish death on him. Maybe if he sits in his golden palace, the riches of the world showering down on him and his kind, the ignorant haters of the world, loving him but never personally, never real in any sense that matters, he will notice that it doesn't matter when your body decides to punish you. that is his ordeal.

[H2O Man]

52. I suspect that

comment, in its correct context, is not intended to support hating the individuals who commit acts of evil; it is about the act itself.

[That Is Quite Enough]

16. I like your perspective on this.

:thumbsup:

[MineralMan]

24. Thanks.

[Vinnie From Indy]

17. Wishing may be the wrong word

It isn't so much that I wish a guy like Rush would die, it is more that I don't give a shit if he does. I give that subject the same amount of thought energy as I do flushing the toilet after I use it.

[Raine]

25. Good way of putting it

I wish him nothing except he gets whatever he deserves in the end and that is out of my hands, so whatever. :shrug:

[kayakjohnny]

18. Too many assumptions going on here.

[HBravo]

21. My Wish

I Hope that all have a Happy and Safe New Year!


Bring them HOME soon.

[Raine]

22. I won't wish him dead but

I won't be a phoney and wish him well either. Whatever is going to happen will and whatever anyone wishes doesn't change the outcome.

[Bluebear]

26. Just curious, do you exhort people not to pray he gets well, since that won't affect the outcome?

:silly:

[MineralMan]

28. I do not. Praying for his recovery will not affect his health.

It will, however, not affect the person doing the praying any harm, either. What does no harm harms nobody.

As an atheist, I consider prayer to be a waste of time, but have no brief with those who pray, as long as they do not pray for harm to come to anyone.

[Forkboy]

29. You know what I love about you?

We both took the OP the same way and yet took totally different routes with it. :D

[Bluebear]

32. Twin sons of different mothers and all that.

Happy new year, FB!

[Forkboy]

34. Hey, it was the 60's.

There's no telling what our crazy ass parents were up too.

:toast:

[Forkboy]

27. As if the heroin and meth weren't enough....

:yoiks:

[Bluebear]

35. PS, I want to finish the thread title "it wastes your time and it annoys the pig".

It's almost visceral!

[Forkboy]

40. ...

:rofl:

[tularetom]

30. I have no idea to whom you are referring

But is it OK if I wish for another human being to be exposed as a drug abuser and a pedophile who evaded the draft because of a pimple on his ass?

Nobody specific in mind, y'know, just an example.

[Lint Head]

31. I do not wish he would die but I do wonder how much better things would be

if he had never existed.

[elocs]

33. K&R. Hate, ill will, and negative vibes don't harm the object but hurt the hater.

It's nice to see a thread that shows a little class about the subject.

[Kablooie]

37. Sorry, can't take you up on that. I wish Hitler would die!

Yay! I got my wish!

[Umbral]

39. But if you do it while holding a clear quartz crystal over the seventh chakra, it funnels...

all the negativity away from you and towards the one being cursed. There's always a way around these things.

[burning rain]

41. Don't be such a hippy.

Hate can put a stress on your system if you let it, but you can also learn to hate joyfully. The proof is in the pudding--eight years of hating Bush with a vengeance and I look scarcely a day older.

[MineralMan]

66. Once a hippy always a hippy...

Although, I must say that you are looking might good, there...

[H2O Man]

42. I agree.

Some of the comments that I've read regarding Rush L seemed a bit over the top. I've been thinking of posting an essay, based on some of Erich Fromm's writings.

[NNN0LHI]

43. After giving it some thought I can't recall ever wishing for someone to die

This one must not have been for me?

Happy New Year MineralMan and everyone else.

Don

[pipi_k]

44. I've never wished for anyone to die...not even the man who molested my kid

the man who also happens to be my brother-in-law.

What I did do was assure myself that Life would deal with him appropriately and in its own time.

And it has...for over 24 years.

I didn't wish for it. I just knew somehow that he would be punished for what he did.

I can't lie and say I'm not secretly pleased...at least a tiny little bit...each time I hear of some new disaster to befall him. Although whatever disasters that befall him also affect his family...most of whom are totally innocent of any such misdeeds, and a couple of them are also victims of his perversion.

I no longer hate him. I'm just not real sorry when I hear about some new disaster in his life. When he dies, I won't be glad because quite frankly, it will be the end of his suffering here on earth. Plus he still has a wife and children who will, I assume, be devastated by their loss.

I'll be sorry for them, but for him I will probably have no feeling whatsoever.

[DeSwiss]

45. Good on ya MM.

- And a Happy New Year!

[flvegan]

46. What I find most comedic are those invoking wishes of bad karma coming back on him.

The irony is so...thick.

[MineralMan]

67. Indeed. Unclear on the concept, I guess.

[varelse]

47. Sorry

There's not a damned thing I can do about wishing certain people were dead - except not obsess on it and keep it to myself.

[StarfarerBill]

48. Well done. K&R

[Pithlet]

49. I look at it this way. Since it doesn't really matter either way.

Then it doesn't really matter either way. If it makes people feel good, then turn the other way. They aren't going to say "You know, you're right!"

To be honest, I'm not going to waste my time hoping he gets better. That's honestly how I feel and I'm not going to pretend otherwise. I can understand why people feel the way they do.

[Ferret Annica]

51. LOL, die Mineral Man, Die.

Heehee, nah, please don't, I am just too impulsive not to say that upon reading your screed here.

[Meldread]

53. K&R. I agree. I think less of people who wish ill on others.

"He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. For when you stand and look long into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you." ~ Frederich Nietsche

"Enemies, as well as lovers, come to resemble each other over a period of time." ~ Sydney J. Harris

I think those two quotes sum up my feelings on the matter.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

54. Wish other people to die.

It won't diminish you for wishing it.

There aren't any emotional effects. Or psychological effects. And certainly not physical effects. That's just superstitious nonsense.

It's a wasted life if you spend all your time being a nervous nelly. Makes no sense.

[DumbBassRepublicans]

57. No sense agonizing over which Republicreeps you wished were dead....

Most of the real annoying Republicreeps have been brain dead for years....

LIMBAUGH
CHENEY
HANNITY
O'REILLY
COULTERGEIST
DUBYA
PALIN
LIBBY
BOEHNER
GINGRICH

These idiots, and quite a few more that I can't remember at this minute,
are all certified BRAIN DEAD, and their bodies shouldn't be too far behind....

THE SOONER..... THE BETTER...!!!

LOL....!!!! :evilgrin:

[aquart]

58. Oh, so negative wishes can kill you.

That does mean they have quite a bit of power. And you seem quite horribly afraid of them.

[Kablooie]

59. Can I wish for a dead person to come back to life?

I found this monkey's paw here and I ....

[shadowknows69]

60. As a student of pagan magick I concur. Bad mojo.

All negativity you create is visited thrice upon yourself.

[Hannah Bell]

73. which is why limbaugh has 1000s of people cheering his death. karmic

agents, returning to him the negativity he spewed into the world for 20 years.

they didn't create it.


but the idea of the 'enlightened' ones here -- that if one even powerlessly *wishes* for the death of an oppressor, they'll be punished -- is noted.

[old mark]

62. Mind your own business. I will continue to hate whomever I please,

and wish whatever I want without help from the Karma Police.

Go shit in your hat.

mark

[MineralMan]

68. Thanks so much for your thoughtful post.

[Name removed]

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[LooseWilly]

64. Are you saying we need to go to the hospital with comfy pillows??

Big... fluffy... comfy... pillows....?

In order to... accomplish "something"?... In order to "make sense"?

[Name removed]

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[boston bean]

69. So when someone you can't stand finally kicks the bucket can you dance on their grave?

you seem to be the go to person. how about it?

[MineralMan]

70. I don't know. It's up to you, just as it is whether or not to do

anything. I don't dance on graves. Waste of time.

[boston bean]

72. me neither, but I only concern myself with myself in matters such as this. nt