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Black-Eyed Susan Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 09:06 PM
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Joe Klein's Fatuous Fantasy by Michael Collins


Joe Klein's Fatuous Fantasy

Michael Collins

Time Magazine's Joe Klein is having an allergic reaction to free speech and public debate. The title of his latest column says it all: The Left's Idiocy on Health Reform. It's an ex cathedra pronouncement from a made man at one of the nation's oldest media properties.

What's got Joe so worked up?

Two things. He's upset at the lack of respect that internet based writers show for the mainstream media and Washington insiders. He's also beside himself that people are actually finding fault with the health care reform bill which many bloggers have the nerve to describe as just another government bailout for big business.

In the snarkier precincts of the left-wing blogosphere, mainstream journalists like me are often called villagers.
Joe Klein, Dec. 30

That's some pretty nasty name calling isn't it. "Hey villager!" Accusing an entire class of people of idiocy pales by comparison. If I've ever read the term villager, I didn't pay enough attention to remember it. But let's take Joe's word that it's out there in all its rhetorical glory. According to Klein, leftist bloggers see villagers as "regurgitating spin spoon-fed by our sources or conjuring a witless conventional wisdom that has nothing to do with reality as it is lived outside the village." Now there's some idiocy – from Joe's keyboard to our screens.

What Joe is doing at the start is an old trick called setting up a straw man. You create the perceived problem on your own but label it as your opponent's position. You tailor it for your purposes with a little accuracy added for effect. Then you blast the straw man to smithereens in a self righteous rejoinder. Those who fabricate a straw man are essentially talking to themselves. The straw man fallacy is one of the first taught in logic classes because it is so easy to spot and so far afield from any form of serious dialog.

It's a good thing Joe did this. Had he paid serious attention, he would have noted that over and over, on blogs and web sites of many persuasions, citizens refer to Joe's kind of mainstream journalism as … the corporate media. It's a dispassionate descriptor that invokes nearly immediate understanding.

Corporations almost never tolerate public criticisms or critiques of the corporate products and services from their employees. Corporate employees are aware of this rule. You go along or you find someone else to pay your salary. There are eight major corporations that "dominate" the United States news media. The obvious conclusion is that opinion journalists and reporters, to a lesser degree, have certain clear limits in their expression of opinions and reporting.

Given the problems with monopolistic behavior, predatory business practices, rigging regulations through bought and sold members of Congress, and the ultimate goal, the transfer of wealth from just about everybody to the financial elite running the major corporations, the corporate injunction against going after the company results in a corporate media that often fails to get to the bottom of our current troubles. It's not a secret or a veiled conspiracy . It's just the way parent corporations treat their subsidiaries and employees. But Joe doesn't want to go there.

Joe takes down the straw man of his own creation by accusing the leftists of living in a "claustrophobic hamlet," emulating Fox News, and a few other asides. However, once you know the straw man trick, it's hard to take the author's rebuttal seriously.

Actually, both the left and right opponents of health care reform are drinking from the same watercooler.
Joe Klein, Dec. 30

After creating an interior dialog that he says represents a reality that he calls idiocy, Joe gets around to talking about health reform. He feels the need to explain why there is so much opposition by citizens, his leftists. Klein offers this.

"The dyspepsia of the left blogosphere is less easily explained, though. It has its roots in an issue the left got right and almost everyone else got wrong: the war in Iraq."

This statement is factually incorrect. It was not only the left that got Iraq right, it was the left, the right (the paleocons, Ron Paul and his supporters), a majority of Democrats, and a majority of Republicans. Some of those good citizens were swayed by the scare tactics of a president we now know lied repeatedly about weapons of mass destruction and much more. This occurred with the support of Klein's mainstream media which failed to ask the tough questions we'd like from journalists.

Klein's argument about Iraq and the left is simply wrong. The public has serious problems trust those in power that create pervasive doubts about this legislation.

One key element in the distrust of the corporate media and the perpetual insiders who run our capitol concerns the Wall Street bailouts, a topic Klein avoids entirely. The intital bailout of 2008 was defeated after the most intense public outcry on any piece of legislation in memory. Wall Street mobilized quickly and with the help of both 2008 presidential candidates got the first of many bailouts. When administrations changed, the new president continued the tradition and opened up the full credit of the United States to the failed Wall Street enterprises to the tune of $23.7 trillion.

In the mean time, the people got virtually nothing. Facing record foreclosures, soaring unemployment (17% real unemployment, see "U-6"), and a constant fear of losing the ability to care for their families, health coverage included, many citizens have noticed a consistent pattern. We are always the last in line and there's nothing but scraps left over when it is our turn to use our own contributions to the Treasury to help the nation as a whole.

The bipartisan coalition in Washington, DC, representing the vested interests of the very wealthiest individuals and firms consistently neglects citizens while it rewards the perpetrators of our current economic collapse. That's why the people have little trust those who claim to represent them. The distrust is not limited to just "leftists." It is pervasive.

Klein brushes aside the real winners in health care reform, the nation's health insurance companies. The bill bails out an industry that adds no value to health care. However, the industry does take value from the health care consumer with a 12% to 30% overhead on the direct cost of insurance. In addition, companies extract huge added fees by their constant meddling with health care providers; something Medicare manages to avoid as evidenced by its low overhead. The "reform" proposal gives the insurance companies new customers by the millions, citizens will be forced to buy insurance with only the promise of cost containing regulations.

Klein avoids the key question -- why are health insurance companies placed at the center of citizen health care? He also avoids the consistent support of citizens, as high as 65%, for a program with the federal government as the payer of claims. It's called "single payer," "Medicare for all," etc. and has strong public support despite hardly any coverage by the mainstream media.

"populist exaggeration — the idea that Washington is controlled by crooks and sellouts"
Joe Klein, Dec. 30

Klein's essay isn't about health care reform. It's an attack on those in the Democratic Party and others who dare to speak out against what they perceive as the poor performance and neglect of the majority by the president and Congress.

In his closing, Klein says "those of the left blogosphere consider themselves the Democratic base" then quickly points out that the base is really "African Americans, union members, Jews, women and Latinos." Klein's transparent and somewhat ugly divide-and-conquer ploy ignores the important fact that all of those groups are heavily represented on the same "blogosphere" that is providing such troubling criticism of an overly sensitive national government that promises much but delivers just about nothing.

The source of increasing criticism is not an irrational response to the alleged good our leaders offer us. It's the reality of getting nothing while those who created the problems reap untold rewards … every single day without any end in sight.

END

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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 09:07 PM
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1. Klein is 100% right about this.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 09:09 PM
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2. Joe, is that you?
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:32 PM
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10. Every bit as persuasive as the last time you said it.
Which is to say not at all.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:42 PM
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15. Right that Klein is a villager?
Or right that villager is an accurate meme for described the bent-knee assume-the-position press that kissed republicon butt through the AWOL years...?
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 06:49 PM
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17. Lol! "the bent-knee assume the position press..." perfect description nt
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 02:15 PM
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19. I think Viet Nam reporting was what did it
After that, there was a big crackdown. Viet Nam went on and on and the press did a decent job. I'm sure that sent off warning bells. It hasn't been the same since. AWOL is a good term.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 09:18 PM
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3. Klein surely enjoys the attention-even when it comes in the form of well earned ridicule
Guess that goes with the territory for folks like Klein- who've never had an original thought in their lives, and write column after column seemingly in an effort to prove it.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:09 PM
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7. "well earned ridicule"
It's all about Joe, just doing his job. He won't read this, of course, so he's insulated;)
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:34 PM
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12. Very well earned. He was vacating the public option in July
Long before we knew the public option was being strangled in its crib he was on Ed Shultz espousing that the public option was dead and that this bill should be passed even without it. He lost me, then.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 11:29 PM
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4. Nice to be able to rec Michael Collins twice, autorank already has this here
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 02:02 AM
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5. I'm confused -- Atrios talks about the Villagers all the time
Does Collins think that Klein made it up as a straw man? I have no sympathy for Klein, but he's certainly been the butt of a lot of bloggish snark.

For recent Atrios references to Villagers see http://www.eschatonblog.com/2009/12/maybe-they-could-watch-general-hospital.html or http://www.eschatonblog.com/2009/12/taking-their-cues.html or http://www.eschatonblog.com/2009/12/hoekstra.html.

That third one links to a Think Progress item about Klein:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/29/hoekstra-joe-klein/

In Time Magazine last week, columnist Joe Klein baselessly claimed that Democrats’ proposed fix to FISA would require “every foreign-terrorist target’s calls to be approved by the FISA court.”

Today, House Intelligence Committee member and “Bush loyalist” Pete Hoekstra (R-MI) revealed that he was a “source” for Klein’s error-filled column, and proudly defends Klein in a column titled “Klein Kerfluffle” in the National Review.

In his original column, Klein insisted that Democrats’ legislation to provide constitutional protections for government surveillance of Americans, or the RESTORE Act, would require a court order to spy on foreign terrorists (Klein has since recanted these statements). In the column, Hoekstra insists that “Klein was correct in his original contention.”

So, yeah, Klein may be getting kind of paranoid. But he's not wrong if he thinks the bloggers are out to get him.


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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:28 PM
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8. That's helpful but it depends on the territory where one dwells on the Internets(s)
Here's where I read and post: DU
The Agnoist http://agonist.org
American Politics Journal http://www.apj.us/index.php
Chimp http://smirkingchimp.com
Daily Censored http://dailycensored.com/
The COTO Report http://coto2.wordpress.com/
The Intelligence Daily http://inteldaily.com/
OpEdNews http://opednews.com
"Scoop" Independent News http://www.scoop.co.nz/sections/comment.html
The Atlantic Free Press http://atlanticfreepress.com/
thepeoplesvoice.org http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/
(I used to go to three Center for American Progress sites -
Campus Progress, Progress Ohio, and ProgressNow but, after over
2 years of posting, all three stopped publishing my articles.)

This is why I've not run into "villagers." These are the more user
oriented, free wheeling sites; I suspect, not the in crowd of what
Joe calls 'leftist' sites. Of course I go other places regularly,
like the foreign press, government statistical sites (BLS), etc.

Those others are too 'moderate' for me;) Seriously, I'm glad you pointed
this out. I stated that I didnt' recall running into the term and he
said it's out there so we're both right. Good for Joe to be right
on occasion.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:02 PM
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6. The full story!
Joe's column is worth the temporary attention as an example of how we're seen by the PTB.

A nuisance, a collection fools, and so forth ... it's really funny to know that we're viewed as
such given the poverty of expression and political action by those in charge.

Thanks so much for posting this!!!
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:31 PM
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9. Yep.
Funny how ridiculous they think we are and, yet, they continue to beat on us about how we MUST support the administration. Ok, is our support imperative or are we irrelevant?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:34 PM
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13. Ouch
That's a great contradiction to point out - if we're such fools, why bother with us?

I suspect because we're noisy fools.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:35 PM
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14. Or, perhaps, we are fools who vote
Incovenient for them, I'm sure.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:43 PM
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16. We're in the tradition of "riff raff" - the "unwashed masses" - "yardlings"
Like you said, those "inconvenient" people who get in the way and make too much noise.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 05:34 PM
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11. Don't be fatuous Jeffrey.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-04-10 01:38 PM
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18. No excuses for Klein, that's for sure;)
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:12 AM
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20. Kick
:kick:
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:54 AM
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21. What utter garbage.
Edited on Tue Jan-05-10 05:57 AM by BzaDem
The "Wall Street bailout" passed because its failure to pass would have caused 1/3 real unemployment (and much higher U-6) within months. Every educated person knows this. Sure, there are plenty of demagogues here and elsewhere (see Michael Collins) who claimed they wanted it to fail (and some uneducated ones that actually did want it to fail), but that doesn't mean that these people are correct or that they should be taken seriously.

As for healthcare, Klein avoids the "key question" of Single Payer because Single Payer has about as much chance as passing now as it did under the Republican controlled Congress in 1995 (or any of the prior Congresses from Teddy Roosevelt on that the people elected, each of which failed to pass Single Payer for all). Some (here and elsewhere) see theraputic value in constructing a make-believe world where something other than this is true (probably part of the same make-believe world where TARP or something like it wasn't necessary), but I am certainly not going to criticize Klein for not playing make-believe.

It seems that Klein is attacking those on the "left" who are attacking "the majority" for not passing a better healthcare bill. And Klein should be attacking these people, because these people deserve it. It is not the fault of Nancy Pelosi or President Obama or Harry Reid or 90% of the Democrats in Congress that we didn't get a better healthcare bill. Instead of attacking the 90% of the Democrats that the left actually agrees with, the left should be attacking the Liebermans and Nelsons who actually caused the healthcare bill to be what it is. It might be rhetorically easy or theraputic to lump all Democrats together (and to use meaningless macho language like "grow a spine" in the process), but that doesn't mean that the demagogues who do decide to lump all Democrats together should be taken any more seriously than demagogues on the other side of the aisle.
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