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placton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:01 PM
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Why the Blackwater Case Stinks
Having practiced law in federal courts for about 30 years, the Blackwater case dismissal stinks. Federal judges (mostly appointed by wingers - Bushes/Reagan or kinda wingers - Clinton) ALWAYS find ways to get around "technical issues" in favor of government prosecutions. The only time they find - to their shock and dismay - that the govt has "erred" is in favor of the well connected. Trust me on this one: the fix was in!

BTW, I hate being so cynical, and I'd love to see federal judges enforce rights of citizens. But, with rare exceptions, they don't.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:03 PM
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1. Didn't we find out about a week ago that Eric Prince is CIA?
Or did I just imagine that after too much turkey and cranberry sauce?
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:04 PM
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2. He tried to get in the CIA but couldn't.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:17 PM
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7. Politico and RawStory cite a Vanity Fair article that says he was
an asset. I don't know about Politico and RawStory but Vanity Fair pays for good investigative reporting.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/laurarozen/1209/Report_Blackwater_CEO_Eric_Prince_was_CIA_asset.html
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:24 PM
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9. Yes he was an asset because he couldn't get in.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:31 PM
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10. Oh, gotcha. n/t
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placton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:05 PM
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3. oh yeah
when I first started out defending folks in federal court, they got a fair shake - that has changed, and the appointments are all pro government - again with some rare exceptions - Clinton fucked us badly with his "moderate" appointments.
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placton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:07 PM
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4. had these defendants been black or hispanic
charged with selling drugs - the judge would have excused the government behavior
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:10 PM
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5. I suppose the insurgents know how to find Blackwater's U.S. headquarters on a map. n/t
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FLDCVADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:12 PM
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6. seems to me the court did enforce the rights of citizens
The federal government made a deal then reneged on it. My issue is with the immunity being granted in the first place, but once it was granted, the prosecutors shouldn't have used the statements in their case.

Why would you want a federal judge (or any judge, for that matter) to let something like this slide?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:24 PM
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8. Could you explain the deal made and reneged on?
I think I'm missing something here.
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FLDCVADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:34 PM
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11. When the killings were first being investigated
the Blackwater guards were granted immunity in return for giving their statements. The immunity deal was that nothing in their statements could be used against them in any way should there eventually be criminal charges.

The prosecutors reneged on that deal by using the statements to obtain search warrants and to track down other evidence. The judge in the case, Justice Urbina, ruled that the government's case was built on evidence that was obtained by ignoring the immunity deal. As such, the evidence was thrown out, and as a result, the judge dismissed the case.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:45 PM
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12. and poof!
Edited on Fri Jan-01-10 10:47 PM by G_j
a simple way to derail the case,
too easy,
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 10:50 PM
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13. Thanks.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 12:19 AM
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14. The Ted Stevens treatment
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