RB TexLa
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Sat Jan-02-10 12:17 AM
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Are people really still talking about the non-bombing from last week? |
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Some local republican mentioned it on local news. Really, a week later and they are still talking about something that didn't even go off?
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Sat Jan-02-10 12:20 AM
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1. And freaking out all over the place |
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Canada effectively banned carry-on for flights to the US the other day. Security theatre's awesome!
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Sat Jan-02-10 12:22 AM
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Edited on Sat Jan-02-10 12:23 AM by MichaelHarris
next week and it's going to suck. I have an artificial knee from football so I always get rubbed down but I bet they make me take all my camera gear out and look through all the lenses which is a pain.
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Sat Jan-02-10 12:27 AM
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4. Once you get past the media hype.. |
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I've flown a couple of flights since 12-25..I travel with a lot of electronics myself..no extra pat downs, and they didn't bother to do a manual check of carry-on
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MichaelHarris
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Sat Jan-02-10 12:31 AM
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I'm so used to the pat-downs, I even wear shorts in winter because it's just easier. The chunk of titanium in my knee sets off the alarm every time.
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Sat Jan-02-10 12:24 AM
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3. Republicans are being, as usual, truly disgusting. A segment on CNN tonight just about made me |
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Sat Jan-02-10 12:28 AM
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5. "People" aren't talking about it... Republicans are.... |
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Republicans are not people.
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Sat Jan-02-10 12:37 AM
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7. The response of Republicans to terrorists seems to be, "EEEK! |
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"A terrorist!" And then they stand on the nearest soapbox.
Given that "terrorist" seems to entymologically mean something like "one who brings about terror", the response of the Republicans seems to mean they are helping the terrorists win every time they throw a feargasm over undiebombers or the like. But let us not forget--
There's gold in them thar possible kills, and they can raise campaign money over talking security to the paranoids, shut-ins, chronic bigots, poor travelers, belly-achers, and all-around boo-magnets who always are "ascairt" of something. And like a PBS fund-raiser, sometimes it does have to go over a week, if one wants to see your regularly scheduled GOP obstructionism or just plain bigoted or ignorant shenanigans.
It's likely one of those repub things we'll never understand.
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Sat Jan-02-10 12:39 AM
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8. Do Republicans seriously think they can make political hay out of this... |
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...when a similar incident happened with the shoe bomber under the Shrub regime?
Could just be the way my memory filtered things over time, but I recall the media coverage of the shoe bomber focusing on the heroism of the passengers, rather than the failure of security methods.
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Sat Jan-02-10 02:55 AM
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9. They are referring to it as "12/25" |
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Another horrible terrorist attack on the US.:nuke: :scared:
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Sat Jan-02-10 03:56 AM
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10. You mean the one where 300 people would have died if the bomb had worked? |
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Edited on Sat Jan-02-10 03:58 AM by old mark
I guess you have a short attention span - go back to your Wii.
Jerks.
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Sat Jan-02-10 04:12 AM
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11. There is no good reason to avoid talking about this |
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Edited on Sat Jan-02-10 04:15 AM by noise
The key issue with 9/11 isn't that it happened on Bush's watch. Rather it is the fact that high ranking officials didn't appear to clock in for work in the lead up to the attacks. Nobody expects US intel to have a 100% success rate. What is expected is for intelligence to be shared with the agencies who need it. Sitting on intel is not acceptable. It doesn't matter who is in the White House.
1)Some GOP politicians were calling for another terrorist attack to help Bush's poll numbers, GOP election prospects and to unify the country (unifying the country=we need criticism of the corrupt Bush administration to go away). It's wise to remember the mentality we are dealing with.
2)The GOP believes in the fascist approach to government. Their talk of freedom is bullshit. They believe in torture, warrantless surveillance and that citizens should not criticize the government (except for Democratic politicians who aren't sufficiently fascist).
3)There are two components to airline security. Preventing suspected terrorists from boarding the planes and trying to prevent potential terrorists from getting on the planes with weapons. There is a lot of talk about expensive, state of the art body scanners. Yet less about the CIA failure to share the intelligence. Scanners are not an immediate fix due to technological issues and expense. CIA failing to share intelligence is hard to understand. Before a single dollar is invested in body scanners the public should know why the CIA didn't share the information. IMO it isn't good enough that members of Congress have been briefed or that steps are being taken to ensure it won't happen again. IT SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED! It shouldn't have happened before 9/11. The CIA has never given a credible explanation for the 9/11 failure. That it happened again suggests the secretive process of Congressional Intelligence Committee oversight is not working. The people who were almost killed on that plane need real answers, not more BS from politicians and intel agency officials who can't do their jobs.
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Sat Jan-02-10 08:01 AM
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isn't there something about a "wall" that prevents agencies from sharing info? I believe it has to do with privacy. In other words, it is civil liberties vs. security.
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Sat Jan-02-10 11:29 AM
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15. I haven't heard that mentioned as an excuse with the |
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Edited on Sat Jan-02-10 11:30 AM by noise
Abdulmutallab sharing. With 9/11 al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar were linked to the USS Cole bombing and a '98 indictment of Bin Laden for the Embassy bombings gave the FBI the latitude to investigate ID'ed al Qaeda operatives. So the sharing failure then wasn't related to the wall. After all the information was shared in late August of '01. The key question concerns why the CIA waited 20 months to tell the FBI. Both the 9/11 Commission and the DOJ IG noted that the FBI agent who received the information acted improperly. Meaning the wall wasn't applicable.
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Sat Jan-02-10 08:09 AM
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13. But they're calling it |
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the bombing which is pathetic. M$Greedia is incorrigible.
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Sat Jan-02-10 09:46 AM
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14. I was surprised to hear on a MN Public Radio call-in show about that |
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when the host referred to it as the terrorist incident where a Northwest plane was almost blown out of the sky. Almost blown out of the sky? Now that's a real stretch.
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Sat Jan-02-10 11:49 AM
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18. a l m o s t ......... |
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Sat Jan-02-10 11:47 AM
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16. Here in looneyville, they still seem to think Prez Obama should personally screen all air travelers |
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I could be wrong, but I thought some of the gazillion tax dollars being sucked from my wallet was being spent on a HUGE Homeland Security Dept. I also thought the Pentagon budget & the cost of two wars ensured that "they" were being fought over there so I wouldn't have to wait in line behind them here.
Shows what a moran I am.
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Sat Jan-02-10 11:48 AM
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17. msm still 24/7....if & when the terrists are successful, they will call for Obama's resignation.... |
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cause, of course, it will all be his fault
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