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TwixVoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 04:22 PM
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Want to know who is really suffering from unemployment?
Here is a NY Times interactive chart. Customize it anyway you want to see what demographic is hurting more than others. Looks like black males, with no high school, age 15-24 is the highest demographic at nearly 50% unemployment.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/11/06/business/economy/unemployment-lines.html?ref=business
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 04:31 PM
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1. What jobs are best for black males, with no high school, age 15-24?
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 04:31 PM
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2. same as jobs for white males with no HS, age 15-24
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 04:40 PM
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3. Suggests that this demographic has had the highest unemployment rate all along and this "info" is
neither informative nor relevant.
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Learning Nomad Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 05:05 PM
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7. The question isn't what jobs are best, but what is available
and what are they willing to work at? Few people get to work at what jobs are best for them.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 05:14 PM
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8. If we are a caring society we must provide the best jobs for this demographic to solve this
problem.
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Learning Nomad Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 06:18 PM
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11. Non-sequitor. A caring society provides jobs, not the best jobs
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 07:00 PM
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14. For the unemployed aged 15-24, the best job is a job, would you not agree?
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 04:42 PM
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4. i don't get why
they would put 15-24 year-olds in one demographic. 15-18 year-olds should still be in school. unfortunately i rather doubt that cleaning that up would help.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 05:16 PM
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9. Otherwise you wouldn't get the emotional reaction to the numbers that the Times desires.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 06:31 PM
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12. These are people who don't get their high school degrees.
So if they are dropouts they do kind of fit into the group that needs to find a job.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 06:45 PM
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13. it doesn't matter
you are only counted as unemployed if you are looking for work and unable to find work. Hence, if you are 16 and not looking for work because you are busy enough with school, then you would not be counted as unemployed.

However, an unemployed teenage might feel bored and broke, but he/she's probably not homeless or hungry in many cases. At least I never was when I couldn't find a real job between the ages of 17 and 22.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 04:44 PM
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5. Is it the rich people?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 04:46 PM
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6. The trend and shape of the curve
is actually pretty consistent by demographic. Meaning your demographic has had only a marginal impact on your change of employability.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 05:16 PM
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10. Young people everywhere are struggling with unemployment
All the older people took the kid jobs after they got laid off.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 09:50 PM
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15. And those over age 45 are being laid off and replaced with kids out of college
because the middle aged cost more to insure and the young will take very low wages. In the end both are getting screwed.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 10:03 PM
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17. True
The fact that employers seem to kick everyone over 50 out of the market is terrifying. What are people who are in their 50s supposed to do until retirement age?

But us young people are being taught to keep our expectations low. My contract job out of college offered no health care, no sick days, no vacation, no bonuses, no matching 401k. The only real perk I got was when all the real employees had a catered lunch, I got some of the leftovers after they were done. I was grateful to have the job though, and the wage was about what I'd expect for a new graduate in my field. But suffice it to say, an entire generation is growing up with the mentality that they should be grateful for temp and contract work with no benefits where they are last hired and first fired.

I feel sorry for people with kids who are just starting out in the 21st century. My older brother had kids but I could never do that. Things are probably going to be even worse for the middle class by the 2030s, when they are fully grown and in the workforce.

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 09:53 PM
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16. kick
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