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Conscious Confucius Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 06:05 PM
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Gore and the Green ticket
Would you vote for Al Gore if he ran under the Green Party or an independent party ticket? With Clinton in, presumably Gore would be out of the old Clinton team Democrats and funding, so would he run Democrat or independent? What do you think?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 06:06 PM
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1. I will vote for Al Gore no matter what party he affililiates with.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 06:08 PM
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4. Agreed though I don't see him doing that.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 06:10 PM
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7. Me Too!! Greens Might be the ticket to a people financed un-lobbied
earmark artist ,he knows where everything is but isn't a prisoner to any of it .
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 06:07 PM
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2. Gore's A Smart Man. He'd Never Associate Himself With Those Green Losers.
Maybe he'd run as an independent, but definitely not a green.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 06:14 PM
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10. We almost said the same thing
but I love the Greens. If our two parties were Green and Democratic with Republicans and Libertarians just being small fringe parties, then I would be voting Green.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:03 PM
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18. I LUV your post.
:D :applause:
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 06:08 PM
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3. If Al Gore joined the Greens
I'd spit every time I read the traitor's name from then on.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 06:13 PM
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9. How about the comfortable turncoats, that even made it Steal able in 2000?
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 06:08 PM
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5. I'd vote for the Dem nominee...
Even with Gore as a candidate, I don't believe the Green party could get a person in the WH. Don't get me wrong, I respect the hell out of the guy. Now, if he were to run as a Dem, of course. He is a dem so I don't expect your premise will become reality.
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Conscious Confucius Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 06:10 PM
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6. Maybe he wouldn't win as an independent
but he certainly would garner enough votes to make the party more viable in the future- funding, recognition and all.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 06:15 PM
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11. Or running as an independent could siphon votes away...
from the dem candidate giving the repuke the WH.

Nope, not gonna do it.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 06:27 PM
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15. Sorry, but with single-seat districts, you will likely never see a viable third party in the US
Edited on Mon Jan-22-07 06:29 PM by Selatius
A two-party system often develops spontaneously from the single-member district plurality voting system (SMDP), in which legislative seats are awarded to the candidate with the most total votes within his or her constituency, rather than apportioning seats to each party based on the total votes gained in the entire set of constituencies. This trend develops out of the inherent qualities of the SMDP system that discourage the development of third parties and reward the two major parties.

The most obvious inhibiting feature unique to the SMDP voting system is purely statistical. A small third party cannot gain legislative power if it is based in a populous area. Similarly, a statistically significant third party can be too geographically scattered to muster enough votes to win seats, although technically its numbers would be sufficient to overtake a major party in an urban zone. Gerrymandering is sometimes used to counteract such geographic difficulties in local politics, but is impractical and controversial on a large scale. These numerical disadvantages can create an artificial limit on the level at which a third party can engage in the political process

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law

If you want more than two parties operating simultaneously in the House, then you should reward seats according to proportional representation and junk congressional districting, which lends itself to gerrymandering.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 06:11 PM
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8. Why would Gore, of all people
want to help elect another Republican President? He's not as big of a moran/a$$hole as Nader.

Of course, my state would probably go Republican even if Jesus ran on the Democratic ticket and Satan or Cheney on the Republican ticket. So I could vote for Bob the Builder and it would not make a tanj bit of difference.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 06:18 PM
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12. Al Gore is a life long democrat who would never run on a third party ticket
he knows enough to understand that he would need to deal with the Democrats and Republicans in congress even in the unlikely situation that he was elected as the candidate of a third party. He also knows, from experience, that the Greens take many more votes away from the Democrats and would only enable the Republicans to win.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 06:23 PM
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13. Gore's got too much class to join up with an outfit that helped screw America in 2000. We
are still getting screwed today because of it.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 06:26 PM
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14. That is Probably the ONLY Scenario
under which I would not vote for Al Gore. Unless, that is, the polls showed him with a clear lead and voting for him would actually put him in office.

But I really, really doubt that Al would ever go Green. Remember, he's the same guy Nader screwed! And when you're the 800-pound gorilla in a major party, you don't need to seek out a splinter group.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 06:31 PM
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16. Dem's need Al more than , We need someone with Courage and For sight
And no Conversation will imbue a candidate with that.
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John Gauger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 06:39 PM
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17. I would not vote for Gore, not even if he was Green.
He has connections to oil companies, therefore he cannot be trusted. He used to be a consultant for Occidental Petroleum. He claims to be pro-choice but his record in Congress shows otherwise. He was very friendly to corporations during his stint as VP. And throughout his career he has supported legislation and policies that were bad for the environment. Cockburn and St. Clair of Counterpunch point outh that he pushed for strip mining in Appalachia including his native Tennessee. He supported NAFTA redardless of how harmful it would be to the environment. He began using his sister's death from cancer as a political prop for years while still accepting donations from tobacco companies. I don't buy his environmentalism. I couldn't vote for him unless I was certain he would end the war and there was not other anti-war candidate. I don't think the Greens would take him. He's too corporate. Then again, they took Romanelli. A local Green condemned Romanelli for taking donations from oil companies and Halliburton. I couldn't vote for him, so I wrote in that local Green. Gore is one of the major reasons for the creation of the Green Party, the other reason being Bill Clinton.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 08:04 PM
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19. I would not vote for the Green Party if Jesus was on the ticket
or anyone else for that matter.
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