Pop Quiz: 1) Who is behind Rapiscan? 2) Who is behind ProVision?

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These are the perverted full-body scanning machines coming to an airport near you, compliments of the Undy-Bomber.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

1. Oh crap.

I thought you had the answer. I was gonna guess Halliburton or Brown and Root or Dick Cheney personally.

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2. If you don't already know, finding the answers will blow you away. n/t

[dems_rightnow]

14. LOL

Great guesses

[enlightenment]

3. I'll bite . . .

1) OSI Systems, Inc.
2) L-3 Communications Security and Detection Systems, Inc.

Why are these companies mind-blowing? (Serious, not snarky - I looked to see if they have nefarious connections and can't find the information).

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6. Not snarky but if you don't know why

L-3 Communications being behind ProVision is mind-blowing, you'll have to do some research. They have their dirtly little hands in all sorts of stuff and are the low-flying equivalent of a Haliburton or KBR in the realm of government contractors.

As for OSI, well...

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/01-2

[valerief]

8. Ah, Skeletor! nt

[Jamastiene]

17. L-3 - Paul Cerjan - Abu Ghraib - Titan - Pat Robertson's Regent Univsersity - Halliburton

L-3 were placed under investigation for hiding electronics failures that most likely caused casualties in our Special Forces and Air Force.

The third L is the Lehman Brothers who negotiated the L-3 Intelligence projects...and they are part of the sub-prime mortgage lending banking bankruptcy fiasco too.

AND...

MUCH MUCH MORE...

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=13993

http://leftwingnutjob.blogspot.com/2006_07_16_archive.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bankruptcy_of_Lehman_Brothers#Background

[rucky]

4. Deepak Chopra?

Are they developing technology to look into our minds & spirits, as well as our bodies?

[Lionel Mandrake]

5. Rapiscan is the more perverted of the two,

because it uses x-rays. I doubt that the claims of tiny doses are true. (Consider the source.)

The L-3 ProVision machine uses millimeter waves, which can't hurt you.

[valerief]

9. It does double-duty. Gets us to die sooner, so that saves on Social Security benes.

Also, during our dying-too-early illnesses, Big Pharma makes out.

But it's mainly to make rich people who invest in it richer. Also, it instills fear which supports war which makes rich people richer.

[yodoobo]

22. They said this was perfectly safe too

http://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/shoefittingfluor/shoe.htm

[lurky]

7. Defense conglomerates? The Military-Industrial Complex?

Sounds like the usual suspects to me. :shrug:
Have you found something especially shocking that a quick Google search wouldn't reveal? You're really going to have to elaborate if you want me to get excited.

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10. What do you not understand about "Pop QUIZ"? n/t

[Edweird]

11. As an unapologetic pervert, I'm here to tell you that the images generated are un-fapworthy.

There may be a few extremely lonely souls that find the images scintillating, but I bet their numbers could be counted on one hand.





I mean, really.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

13. Might want to rethink your use of the phrase "one hand." n/t

[backscatter712]

16. Don't you know the Greater Internet Fetish Theory?

If you can think of it at all and put an image of it on the Internet, someone will be fapping to it...

[Edweird]

20. LOL. Yeah, I can see that.

I worked and played in the deep dark fetish underground for years and years. I know perverted when I see it, and these images ain't it.

[backscatter712]

25. They don't turn you on, they don't turn me on...

but Rule 34 says they turn someone on...

I mean, so many people get aroused just with the idea of peephole shows and such.

The backscatter X-ray machine is like the ultimate peephole.

I wonder if the TSA's standard issue equipment includes tissues and KY?

[Edweird]

30. Yes.

I even covered that in one of my responses. Somebody will find it titillating (snicker). But, my claim is that they aren't *perverted*. The images are essentially medical in nature.
(Yes, I know all about the rubber nurses and medical fetishes. That isn't the case here.)

Somewhat revealing? Yes. Exciting to some lonely heart? Possibly. Perverted? In my professional opinion, no.

[backscatter712]

32. My concern isn't about perversion per-se.

As far as I'm concerned, as long as your activities involve purely consenting adults, you can get as freaky as you want.

My concern is that people who didn't sign up for that sort of thing may become unwitting objects of sexual gratification (this includes children). These people are just trying to get on a plane so they can go from Point A to Point B. Having pictures of them minus their clothing distributed to persons unknown for sexual gratification isn't in their travel plans.

It's the lack of consent I'm concerned about. Sure, today, they give you the choice between the digital strip search and an old-fashioned pat-down, but that may not always be the case. This is an issue of abuse, and I contend it's not a matter of if, but when these machines will be abused...

[Edweird]

34. I freely admit that I am seriously 'desensitized' and that I am far outside the mainstream.

That being said, I think 'sexual gratification' is a non-issue. I think, correction - I KNOW - that you have more to worry about abuse wise from the 'pat down' than from a grainy low res gray scale image. I just don't see it. There is a whole internet of real porn available for free. It just doesn't seem like that big of deal.

[Lionel Mandrake]

18. Operators of this equipment are admonished not to drool

no matter how excited they get. :wow:

[Edweird]

19. heh. Like average Americans look like members of the Swedish Bikini Team or something.

Even then, the grainy grayscale images are useless. "oooh wait.. is that a nipple?" You can download real porn on your phone.

[yodoobo]

23. They are also say its imposible to store the images

Then they show the images they stored to prove they aren't worth storing......

[Edweird]

24. What has been seen...

[NBachers]

12. Omni Consumer Products?

[backscatter712]

15. Michael Chertoff & Tom Ridge?

I know that Michael Chertoff's consulting firm is shilling for Rapiscan, and I heard that Tom Ridge was also shilling for electronic strip search machines, so in his case, I made an educated guess...

[truth2power]

28. I read somewhere in the past couple of days that Chertoff

has a financial interest in those machines.

[backscatter712]

29. He does. His consulting firm has the manufacturer of the Rapiscan machines as clients.

I'll take "Conflicts of Interest" for a thousand, Alex.

[Nikki Stone1]

31. Now all we need to know is if Chertoff can set a good underwear bomb

And if he can wear an overcoat and get someone without a passport on a plane.

Hmmm......:evilgrin:

[Odin2005]

21. Methinks whomever came up with the name RAPIscan shows how sick this is.

[backscatter712]

26. Pronounced like "rapid", or pronounced like "rape"? n/t

[Odin2005]

33. When I first saw the name I thought "rape-i-scan"

Though I'm sure they meant the other pronunciation.

[backscatter712]

27. OK, OP. We've gotta know. Who's behind these two companies.

I know I've got at least one of them.

Edit: Nevermind, Looking through the thread, I see the answers. I did get Michael Chertoff!!!