Cheney is attacking Obama in an attempt to save his own ass.

[Atticus]

I think that Dick understands that he is a war criminal. I think he knows that while spying on the American people and torturing prisoners is reprehensible and could land him in prison, that's not the worst that he and his fellow neo-cons did. However you want to frame it, they lied us into a totally unnecessary war to increase their own political power and fill the off-shore accounts of all those who "matter".

Those lies cost us hundreds of billions of dollars that are no longer available for infrastructure upgrades, conversion to a green economy or---universal health care.

And, those lies have cost 4373 lives of US Armed Service personnel, as of a few days ago.

Dick knows that if THOSE lies are hammered into the American consciousness night after night on the evening news---like Watergate was---the peasants will finally REALLY storm the castle with torches and pitchforks and, if he's lucky, frog-march his skanky ass into a new "undisclosed location".

But---if "friendly" GOP candidates can take back Congress next year, they can be even more effective in bottling up an thwarting any Democratic initiatives. Cue the Teabaggers and the whore media and fan the flames of liberals' righteous indignation and it is not out of the question that some mutant version of the Republican Party could retake the White House in '12. Romney or whoever appoints just one more like Roberts or Alito to the SCOTUS and---the cork is firmly in the bottle.

No one alive today will be around when---IF---the Bush-Cheney crimes are investigated and documented by future historians. Another generation of scumbags will have gotten away with raping our democracy and defiling our Constitution. And, some future Cheney will read about Dick's "success" and think "Why the hell not?" as he contemplates some new outrage against the ignorant American people.

Cheney is behaving like a cornered rat because that is exactly what he is.

[NRaleighLiberal]

1. The problem is that he, Bush, Rummy, etc all committed visible crimes

and as yet there has been absolutely nothing to pay.

I have become incredibly cynical about the whole thing and will be the most surprised person in the history of mankind if any of the criminals get what they deserve.

[LakeSamish706]

10. I absolutely agree with you, and in that light Obama is going to get what he

gets from Cheney. Obama should be booting his AG in the ass to get him to bring charges against Cheney and then Cheney would be to busy trying to keep his but out of jail to be getting in Obama's face.

[That Is Quite Enough]

2. Ding, ding, ding

"Cue the Teabaggers and the whore media and fan the flames of liberals' righteous indignation and it is not out of the question that some mutant version of the Republican Party could retake the White House in '12. Romney or whoever appoints just one more like Roberts or Alito to the SCOTUS and---the cork is firmly in the bottle."

[Generator]

3. Disagree

Cheney is not afraid of getting punished. Obama made sure that was off the table. It's really laughable.

But what you don't get about Cheney is-he doesn't CARE. He has no fear. He believes in torture. He believes in murder. He thinks that your death and mine are collateral damage. Yeah, damn right I believe he let 9.11 happen on purpose. So that's a kind of evil I don't excuse. He doesn't believe he is a war criminal. He thinks he's a hero. After all he was invited to the inaugural. Where's the congressional outrage? Oh yes, that would be one man-Dennis Kucinich who some think is a joke here. Well you get what you pay for.

What's Obama going to do about it?

I'm waiting to see.

[bertman]

13. I AGREE with Generator 100%. What's Obama going to do about it? Nothing. Because he

is now in line to be facing the same charges.

[blues90]

16. Obama and all the others are going to do NOTHING!

They are looking toward the future. No one can see it or predict it but they are looking at it in their own minds. Crips This went out in 2006 with Pelosi with the off the table.

I give up on this crap. they are all the same cowards all sitting in the government all with nothing but their career and to make some sort of history that will mean absolutely nothing.

[pkz]

4. and I think he needs called on it

Obama should nail him to the wall...or at least send some thugs and threaten it:popcorn:

[Turbineguy]

5. And distracting from the undergarment bomber

who passed through detection during Cheney's tenure.

[rhett o rick]

6. How do we keep the pressure on him? nt

[madokie]

7. I think I have a few years left in me

I also think I'll see the day that these war criminals are charged with their crimes. You see I have faith that in the end our country is stronger than a few scumbags. The reason it's taken this long in my view is because of the shit like what you're saying when you say, No one alive today will be around when---IF---the Bush-Cheney crimes are investigated. We're talking hundreds of thousands of people dead now because of them and they are going to walk free, I don't think so. Ask any of the other war criminals how it's been working out for them how lifes treating them today. The dick, w, rummy, condi all of them will have their day in court. I doubt any of them will find a very friendly court either and I also doubt any of them can prove their innocense. These ole boys and girl are going to the war crimes tribunal before this is all said and done and once the ball gets started it'll proceed rather quickly too. My hope is that the dick lives at least long enough to be charged before his black heart gives up the ghost. A lot of people died and he and his criminal crew are responsible and there is no changing that, no amount of whistling past the grave yard will change any of it.
As soon as it is seen that the host country, US, in this case cannot or will not bring charges to these war criminals the world court steps in and off to The Hague they all go. That day is getting closer with each day. Oh and he bullshit about us not being a signee is like I said bullshit. bushco is going down one way or the other, through our courts or through the ICC. Thats a fact

[Atticus]

11. I envy you your optimism. I truly hope you are right.

When impeachment was taken "off the table", so was the prospect of justice being done in the most effective way and at the most opportune time.

They still could be prosecuted, but the Democrats seem too intimidated by the Wingnuts' bogus accusations of "partisan witchhunts" to investigate, file charges and actually prosecute the bastards. The Teabaggers would likely riot, egged on by Beck, Limbaugh and Palin, et al. Of course, then, the "inciters" could be prosecuted, but all that gets so----"messy". I don't think you could find more than a handful of national Democrats with the stomach for it.

[tularetom]

12. Gawddamnit I like the way you think

I'm almost 70 years old and I still have faith that fate is gonna bite these criminals in the ass during my lifetime.

Whether or not Obama or his administration is the actual agent of the ass biting I can't really say but there are a hell of a lot of people around the world who know or at least suspect what really went on.

[madokie]

15. With our partisan politics we have today it will be best if the Obama white house

pretty much stays out of this, its a world thing, its a human thing and prosecuting them is the right thing. I wouldn't give two shits for any one of the bushco criminals lives right now as there are many other countries looking at all this. Its coming, it takes time but we've got some of that, you and I. This bridge we will cross.

[never cry wolf]

21. Could Cheney be real?

Rather than the evil Darth who loves violence. could he possibly be the scared chickenhawk running around screaming the sky is falling? Might he actually, sincerely believe and be scared personally for homself? He certainly went to great extents to avoid Nam. Is he unavoidably psychotic about brown people and personal conflict that he avoided?

I agree that there is little to explain this piece of shit but maybe his supra-scaredness is a start?

Some people have a cleanliness phobia, Cheney has a "get rid of them sanitarily" phobia

[Canuckistanian]

8. There will be no "Democratic initiatives"

But I see your point. Dick is just laying the groundwork for any possible investigation.

And it could come on one of MANY fronts - the Iraq war "justification", wiretapping, torture, Halliburton (pre AND post 9/11), Plame or.... something we don't even know about yet.

Dick is basically a coward. And right now, he's shaking in his boots, despite NO signs of trouble ahead for him.

Yet.

[Ferret Annica]

9. The criminal trail goes all the way back to Prescott Bush

and continued with George HW Bush, so this is a long term and very convoluted racket these people have run for decades. I really hope there is will to make them accountable and to serve the cause of justice, but at this point, I am very cynical about the chances of this happening.

[EFerrari]

14. Yep. Straight projection, it's what they do. n/t

[Randall Flagg]

17. I don't agree with that.

I think Cheney is a sick, psychotic, power mad son of a bitch who really believes the shit he spouts.

He's a PNAC butt-buddy who has been around the circles of power on and off for so long that he thinks he knows better than any young upstart who doesn't believe that the U.S, ought to go ahead and conquer the world via some sort of comic book "He-Man/Masters of the Universe" wet dream.

My guess is that he's a psychotic sociopath who believes the crap he says.

Either that or he's some strange incarnation of Mephistopheles.

[lpbk2713]

18. I don't know why Deadeye even bothers.

He's not likely to be around much longer anyhow.

[ChicagoSuz219]

19. It is my understanding...

...that the Hague trials originate with charges made by the UN Security Council & not the President nor the Attorney General.

Do I have it wrong?

[Blue Owl]

20. Too late, Darthbag

You'll go down in history as an evil overlord who betrayed his own country. JUDAS!