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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:31 PM
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OMFG - soft drink bottles full of honey
shut down the Bakersfield airport. This is beyond madness. :rofl:
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:32 PM
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1. you know how sticky that stuff is...
it gets all over everything and creates a big mess
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:33 PM
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2. Huh?
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:33 PM
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3. Thank Gawd it wasn't Corn Syrup. n/t
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:34 PM
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4. ohhhh.... Won't somebody think of the diabetics?!!
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:34 PM
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5. would you laugh
If Al-Quida got to McGyver?
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:34 PM
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6. were fumes coming from this?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:37 PM
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10. LOL well it apparently affected TSA staffers
Edited on Tue Jan-05-10 04:38 PM by malaise
Guess they never ever saw or smelled genuine honey in their lives. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!

add
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:35 PM
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7. Honey, I Scared the Paranoids.
The exciting new sequel...

It would be funny if it wasn't TRUE. Talk about mass hysteria.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:37 PM
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8. Envelopes filled with baking soda caused a lot of problems too.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:38 PM
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11. I travel with baking soda as an antacid
note to self, buy more when you arrive and save everyone a shitload of hassle
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:37 PM
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9. How stupid do we look?
Panic! Panic! Fear! Fear!
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:58 PM
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31. Apparently the media feels the need to now report every airport/plane related incident n/t
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:38 PM
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12. I got roughed up for having a little sample jar of honey
in Munich, Germany, last year. The security manager came out and told me it was "your government's fault" and they could confiscate anything they felt like out of my luggage. It was honey from a forest blossom apiary - I just had a little bit left that I was taking back, but the mostly empty container was the original jar, which was probably all of five ounces by volume.

I did get an apology later, but honey really freaks these guys out. And don't get me started on what some international airports are willing to do to traveling Americans to get back at the U.S. government - Toronto took the whole fucking 10 layer cake at Christmas this year.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:40 PM
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14. Can't blame airport staff across the globe for being pissed
We don't have money for education and have to buy this crap for airport searches.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:38 PM
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13. so . . . . what do you suggest? Just let anything questionable pass
and determine whether that was the correct decision based on the outcome?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:44 PM
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17. If you can't recognize honey
maybe that's not the job for you
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:47 PM
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19. Do you go around tasting substances that you don't recognize?
Do you think posts through before you post them?
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:50 PM
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21. Honey also has a distinctive odor.. n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:51 PM
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22. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Way too obvious - the honey bomb - Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:54 PM
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25. In an unlabeled bottle?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:56 PM
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28. I've rarely seen honey in bottles with labels
Sorry - we buy up honey from friends who keep bees or along the highways - not one has a label. You'd only see that in supermarkets and we'd never buy honey there.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:04 PM
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38. The bottle changes the odor?
I did not know that..

/Johnny Carson
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:06 PM
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39. What is it that you do know, Fumesucker?
Do you know how the process of smelling things works?
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:09 PM
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41. How would I know that honey has a distinctive odor if I did not?
Changing the bottle won't change the smell, at least not to any appreciable amount.

I remarked that honey has a distinctive odor and you replied "In an unlabeled bottle?" which was a total non sequitur to my point.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:10 PM
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42. In a sealed, unlabeled bottle.
I was going to ask if you go around inhaling suspicious unknown liquids, but then I saw your username...
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:14 PM
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45. Let's see, it looks like honey, viscous like honey, the owner says it's honey..
There's an excellent chance it's honey and a minuscule one that it's not and even it if wasn't the chance that it is also poisonous is additionally very low.

You have the owner taste it first, then smell it if you are so worried about being poisoned by the odor.

And my user name is thanks to the fact I'm sucking financial fumes and have been for a while.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:15 PM
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46. It looks like a clock, it's ticking like a clock, the owner says it's a clock...
what could go wrong?
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:17 PM
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48. You could have him eat the clock..
That should solve the problem of the ticking anyway..
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 07:22 PM
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64. Ticking isn't an issue...vibrating is.
...and then nine times out of ten its an electric razor. But every once in a while it's a dildo.

Of course it's company policy never to imply ownership in the event of a dildo... always use the indefinite article a dildo, never your dildo.


Sorry, random "Fight Club" quote.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:54 PM
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61. Perfect
Thank you. A fugging farmer tells you he's taking honey home in soda bottles, that's clearly the truth. Make him taste it.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:52 PM
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23. Do you?
Spare me - TSA staff should be trained to identify liquids. It is rubbish to shut down an airport over honey. Please get real.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:57 PM
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29. No to the first question, yes to the second.
So let's say you come across a mysterious piece of luggage and inside are several unlabeled or mislabeled bottles of a thick, yellow liquid. You're supposed to know it's honey how exactly?





Here's a picture of honey and a picture of a highly flammable dangerous liquid. Which one's honey?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:59 PM
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34. Smell them
Duh!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:01 PM
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36. Congratulations.
You just opened a bottle of pyrophoric explosive material that caused a serious fire landing yourself and a coworker in the hospital, and shut down an airport.

Smooth move, Chief Wiggum.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:12 PM
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43. I'm not real knowledgeable in this area, so a couple questions...
My understanding is a pyrophoric explosive material refers to something that burns rapidly and has a low ignition point--like gasoline, but it still needs an ignition source. Or is it something that spontaneously combusts when exposed to oxygen?

I didn't find a clear answer with quick Google search.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:14 PM
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44. I'm referring to substances that spontaneously burst into flame on contact with air.
The point being, if you have some unknown liquid and you need to identify it, smelling it is almost as stupid as tasting it.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:20 PM
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49. Are pyrophoric liquids also viscous like honey?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:21 PM
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51. They can be, yes.
Lots of things are viscous like honey. Lots of things are yellow like honey.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:30 PM
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54. And there are lots of white powders like anthrax..
I recall right after the anthrax attacks that a bakery was evacuated and the hazmat team was called because they found a white powder on the loading dock..

After all it *could* have been anthrax.

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:35 PM
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56. A bakery is rather ridiculous, isn't it?
I'd also say that jars of honey at a beekeepers house would also not be suspicious.

That said, if you're a secretary at the office of a U.S. senator and a suspicious letter arrives and white powder falls out when you open it, I'm not going to fault you if you assume the worst even if it later turns out to be baking soda.

The same goes for airport security workers finding unusual unlabled bottles of a mysterious liquid.

If you want to get upset at something, there's plenty of fault you can find with the media who overreacted, but not the security people.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:40 PM
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57. Evacuating the airport isn't overreaction?
Confiscating and moving the liquid to a safe(er) place would have been sufficient.

The only reason the media got involved was because the airport was shut down.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:42 PM
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58. This isn't exactly Dalla-Ft. Worth we're talking about.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:45 PM
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59. To quote Dick Ctheney: So? n/t
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:20 PM
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50. Again just curious--are these substances readily avaible and what are they?
As far as identifying them, I suggest hurling the container against the wall; that way you've covered the impact possiblity too.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:26 PM
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53. Off the top of my head, I don't know.
I suppose there are a number of organic reagents such as LiAlH4 or t-BuLi that could be prepared in oil and look very much like honey. Not that they'd be useful for terrorism purposes, but the point that IDing substances by smelling them is a damn foolish idea remains.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:41 PM
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15. I remember right after the anthrax attacks..
The hazmat team was called out to a bakery loading dock where some white powder was found..

Yes, I'm serious, it was in the news..
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:43 PM
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16. ROFL
:rofl:
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:59 PM
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33. Similar thing at my work. We were evacuated for drywall dust.
Drywall dust on the floor right under where the electrician had obviously just installed a new time clock.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:07 PM
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40. That could be valid
There's tons of poisonous drywall in this country. It comes from China. If you live in a newer building, it might be in yours.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:17 PM
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47. Yeah except this was right after the Anthrax attacks.
I don't think poison Chinese drywall existed in the US yet.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:25 PM
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52. It's been coming in since before 2006?
Edited on Tue Jan-05-10 05:27 PM by notadmblnd
complaints started coming in, in 2002

http://www.azom.com/news.asp?NewsID=19341
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:33 PM
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55. OK, this particular building went up in '96 so it's possible I guess.
But in any case it was a "white power" panic-fear-panic scare, not anything based in objective reality.

Clearly if there were poison drywall; they wouldn't have let us back in.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:47 PM
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18. Pro-Tip: When TSA asks you what's in the bottles...
Do NOT tell them, "None of your beeswax!"

:hide:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:52 PM
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24. LOL
:rofl:
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:55 PM
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27. .
:spank:

:rofl:
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:49 PM
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20. If it had been something sinister and it had been allowed through,
people would have asked "WHY DIDN'T YOU SEE THE SIGNS!?!?"

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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:57 PM
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30. Honey is pretty obviously honey.
It's hard to mistake it for anything else. As someone else noted above, it also has an odor.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:54 PM
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26. "The Land of the Free and Home of the Brave" and other comic sketches.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 04:58 PM
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32. Think about all the potential bees that shit could have attracted.
Are you willing to risk that!?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:00 PM
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35. Perfect response
:rofl:
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:01 PM
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37. I guess it just proves the old adage.
you catch more TSA agents with honey...
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 06:12 PM
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63. "I'm so tired of these motherfucking bees on this motherfucking plane!!"
To paraphrase Samuel L. Jackson.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:49 PM
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60. Damned AlBeeDa terraists!!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 05:57 PM
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62. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
BeeDUzy :rofl:
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