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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:10 AM
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Footprints show tetrapods walked on land 18m years earlier than thought - Fundie heads explode
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/jan/06/footprints-tetrapods-walked
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The oldest footprints ever made by four-legged creatures have been discovered by scientists, forcing them to reconsider a critical period in evolution: the point at which fish crawled out of the water onto land to evolve into reptiles, mammals and eventually humans.

The "hand" and "foot" prints are 18m years older than the earliest, previously confirmed fossil remains of "tetrapods" or four-legged vertebrates and were left by lizard-like creatures up to 2.5 metres long.

The discovery, reported in tomorrow's issue of the journal Nature, was made in a former quarry in the Holy Cross Mountains in south-eastern Poland. The fossil footprints can be reliably dated to the early Middle Devonian period, around 395 million years ago.

Philippe Janvier of the Muséum National d'Histoire Naturelle in Paris said the finding was as significant as "the first footprint of Neil Armstrong on the moon" and described its effect as akin to "lobbing a grenade" into the previous consensus of when the shift from water to land occurred.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:26 AM
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1. Their heads explode any time you say sonmething is older than 6000 years.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:34 AM
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2. Then this should cause
the rapture :evilgrin:
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:36 AM
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3. We can only hope.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:40 AM
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4. I thought the rapture already happened and the "good" christians
already left, leaving the dregs behind with the rest of us.


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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:51 AM
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5. Damn
No one told me :D
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 12:35 PM
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22. Well, I guess you know where YOU stand........
wait, I'm still here, too.....
But my neighbor's dog is gone.


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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 12:37 PM
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23. ROFL
:rofl:
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:55 AM
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6. So that explains it
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 08:17 AM
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7. Interesting! Thanks for posting! nt
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 08:24 AM
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8. sometimes I wonder whether bringing up young-earth creationism
in virtually every story about geologic or astronomical time scales just gives those ideas more attention than they deserve.
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JackintheGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:17 AM
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9. And they were found in the Holy Cross Mountains
Brilliant!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 10:09 AM
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12. LOL
:rofl:
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 12:00 PM
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21. That proves they're less than two thousand years old. n/t
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:23 AM
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10. awesome stuff. K&R
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 10:07 AM
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11. You don't understand these people at all
Edited on Thu Jan-07-10 10:07 AM by jberryhill
"Young earth" creationists simply reject the dating methodology out of hand, or claim that the assumption of physical "constants" is not valid.

For other species of creationists, this is simply more fuel for them. Their point here is, "You see! Those evolutionists keep proving themselves to be wrong. We know that walking creatures are as old as any others, and they'll keep finding older and older ones until they understand we were right all along."

But for both types of creationists, the headline is:

"Evolution theory proven incorrect again and sent back to the drawing board."


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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 10:40 AM
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15. You're partly right
I never understand ignorance.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 11:54 AM
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19. LOL

I'm an expert in stupid.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 11:14 AM
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16. Exactly. These tracks prove that this creature did not evolve, but was fully
created and walking the post-deluvial (Noah's flood) Earth 6000 years ago. If you looked closer, you'd find human prints somewhere there too. So there.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 10:29 AM
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13. Moses hunted those
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 10:31 AM
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14. And you know Sarah Palin would, too
Love the graphic, BTW! :hi:
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 11:27 AM
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17. Don't see why their heads will explode...
They'll just claim that God (ha! ha! the perennial jokester!) put those footprints there in order to "test the faith" of the Faithful.

God loves jokes so much he gave us the dinosaurs, the Grand Canyon, exploding cigars, the squirting flower, and the poo-poo cushion.

:7

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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 11:31 AM
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18. The devil put them there to confuse us.
:popcorn:
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 11:59 AM
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20. The split between freepers and DUers came over 300 million years later.
You can tell by the knuckle prints.
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