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thotzRthingz Donating Member (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:53 PM
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07jan2010: *out damned spot* (KILL THESE 2000 PAGE BILLS)!
Edited on Thu Jan-07-10 06:55 PM by thotzRthingz
Okay, so the House & Senate bills fall far short of SINGLE-PAYER and any real means of COST CONTAINMENT. Furthermore; neither provides guaranteed coverage to every American... not to mention any reasonable resemblance to "affordable" coverage for MOST Americans. What we need to do is give EVERY AMERICAN equal/standardized access to health care...
...meaning there will be no more:
Medicare, Medicaid, Military, or any other "Federal" programs... they will all simply come under one program (otherwise known as a SINGLE PAYER system).


Look folks... what we have currently are House and Senate BILLS which are about 2000 pages each. They are full of *BULLSHIT DOUBLE-SPEAK* ... and are intentionally so framed.

In CORPORATE AMERICA, there is no such things as "bulletproof enforceability". IOW: corporate lawyers can tie-up litigation in our courts for decades at a time ... thus, nothing written in DOUBLE-SPEAK is really "enforceable" (and that's WHY these BILLS are 2000 pages in length)!

What these two plans manage to do is to give a HUGE GIFT to the health care industry FOR-PROFITs (HMOs, Insurance Companies, Pharma, etc.)... and that is completely unacceptable, period! Here's how HEALTH CARE REFORM should have gone... and we need to START AGAIN with this as our uncompromisable outcome:
1. every American SHALL have access to good health care, PERIOD

2. every American SHALL pay their fair share for said access

Based on the current proposals, it seems to be quite alright that some will be paying as much as 20% of their income, for health insurance. So with items #1 and #2 as our uncompromisable foundation... let's begin building upon that "OK-ness"!
3. every American shall pay 20% of their GROSS INCOME for health care insurance (which shall include preventive and corrective medicine/surgery, mental health, dental, prosthetics, and pharmaceuticals). There shall be NO LOOPHOLES, period!

This 20% will apply whether one is SINGLE, or head of a household of 3, 6, 9, 12 (or whatever). Children/Dependents will not be excluded or punished, simply because they have no income... they will simply be included in the HOUSEHOLD's "20% of GROSS INCOME" payment. If you make $1,000/month then you pay 20% of that GROSS income. If you make $10,000,000,000/month then you pay 20% of that GROSS income.
4. corporations and even small businesses SHALL have no "health care insurance burden" whatsoever.

5. the Federal government will collect this "20% of GROSS INCOME" ... and use same to administer a SINGLE-PAYER system (with standardized FORMS and CLAIMS-payments for any and all services, as described in item #3).

So, there you have it... fully utilizing the K.I.S.S. principle... a ONE PAGE HEALTH CARE REFORM BILL. Oh my, what do you suppose would happen next? DO you suppose that NO ONE would be paying "20%" (would it become more like "5%")? Most importantly... there will be no PROFIT-mongering to be borne upon the backs of Americans (where the human condition is concerned)!
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seeinfweggos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:55 PM
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1. gop talking point number 407 - the bill is so big!
you actually think that is unusual for a major piece of leg.?
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thotzRthingz Donating Member (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:58 PM
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3. deleted DUP (n/t)
Edited on Thu Jan-07-10 07:00 PM by thotzRthingz
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thotzRthingz Donating Member (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:58 PM
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4. Are you mistaking me for someone against REAL health care reform? If so...
Edited on Thu Jan-07-10 07:50 PM by thotzRthingz
Read the OP ... I want REAL REFORM, and I want it to go into effect in 2010!

If you think the GOP loves my proposal (ONE PAGE / FIVE PARAGRAPH REFORM BILL)... then you OBVIOUSLY are not talking about the GOP which I have hated nearly all of my 60 years on this earth!
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thotzRthingz Donating Member (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:42 PM
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5. UNREC til yer heart is content... "greatest" is not, never has been, never will be my goal... ;-P
Edited on Thu Jan-07-10 07:43 PM by thotzRthingz
I've seen thread after thread... pro VS con... regarding "health care reforms" currently being considered. These BILLS (both House & Senate versions) are full of so much BULLSHIT that entities outside of the milky-way are starting to send complaints to the united federation of planets.

I say "SCRAP THIS CRAP!" (and give us the only REAL REFORM possible... a SINGLE PAYER system)... do it NOW, implement it this year not in four, five, six, or even several dozen years down the pike)!
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thotzRthingz Donating Member (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 08:23 PM
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6. "true progressives" know when to FIGHT ... and we shall not:
weaken, tire, falter, or fail!
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seeinfweggos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:55 PM
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2. gop talking point number 407 - the bill is so big!
you actually think that is unusual for a major piece of leg.?
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 08:40 PM
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7. I don't understand these objections to the bills based on their length.
Also, that thing that you've written isn't a bill.
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