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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:24 PM
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All Harry Reid really did in his "light-skinned" comment was acknowledge
Edited on Sun Jan-10-10 07:26 PM by pnwmom
the continuing existence of racism in our society. Who can dispute that?

The Republicans, that's who. Their policy is to pretend that racism is non-existent, that none of them would ever dream of being racist, and that to even mention it is to "play the race card."

Give me a Harry Reid over a phony-baloney Liz Cheney or Michael Steele any day.



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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:26 PM
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1. There's no way to spin the use of the word "Negro" to a positive. Unlike many elderly
people Harry Reid KNEW BETTER than to use that word.

I don't think it's a reason to fire him ... there are so many more ... TRULY VALID reasons.

But what the hell, he's a corporate democrat so I think, "any port in a storm."

RESIGN HARRY, RESIGN! :evilgrin:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:29 PM
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3. He could have gotten "all sophisticated" and used the term "ebionics."
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:29 PM
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4. I missed the word "Negro." But this is a word Martin Luther King used,
Edited on Sun Jan-10-10 07:33 PM by pnwmom
as opposed to "colored." Someone like Reid is of a generation that didn't see the word as a slur.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:54 PM
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10. Negro is not a slur......
I don't know where you got that from.

It is outdated, but it is not a slur.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:57 PM
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11. Right. It comes from the Latin word for black, doesn't it? n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:18 PM
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12. It was what African-Americans and before that Blacks called themselves.....
It can be a slur if that is how it was intended....
In this case, I'm not sure if Reid meant it exactly in that way....
considering that he felt that Obama could win, which was the context of his comments.
Certainly if he would have used the term "Ebonics" instead of Negro Dialect,
that would have been even worse, IMO.....

I just think that Reid as a White person said something insensitive,
and didn't realize that when put out in the public sphere,
it would sound as bad as it did.

The entire media, as well as quite a few folks, including those who would call themselves
Liberals, said a whole lot of things during that election that I consider insensitive,
beyond the actual racists with their Watermelon routines, and their monkey dolls.

I remember Elizabeth Edwards saying some tacky shit....like if her husband was Black,
he'd be more of a contender...

Why do you think the fact that Obama's half was White was sold so hard?
This society, for the most part, is inherently racist, to a great degree

....not all individuals (of course there are plenty of those too),
but collectively as well.

That's part of the reason that folks/media came down so hard
on Tiger Woods and left Ensign alone. Woods was supposed to be one of the good "ones",
and turned out he wasn't so "good". And the fact that some linked Woods directly to Obama,
well, that's worse than anything Reid ever said.

and if Steele can do the honest Injun routine
and keep his job, than he doesn't need to say anything else, again, IMO.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:24 PM
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15. What Clinton said was worse
Bill Clinton was at the centre of a race storm last night after he was accused of denigrating Barack Obama. The former president allegedly claimed during the hard-fought Democratic primary race: ‘A few years ago, this guy(Obama) would have been getting us coffee.’

He is said to have made the racist remark in a phone call entreating Senator Teddy Kennedy, the party’s vastly influential elder statesman, to endorse his wife, Hillary, in the delicately balanced 2008 nomination battle.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:28 PM
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17. All of this primary rehashing is being done to keep ourselves at each other's throat....
I mean, I remember the meme that Hispanics wouldn't vote for a Black man.

I didn't see the media fall all over themselves on that one.
In fact, they were trying to figure out if it was true; the turds!
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:34 PM
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19. If anything,if reflects how big the gap is between a race understanding another..
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:26 PM
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2. I agree, it seems that the (R)s either don'[t understand what racism is
or are so desperate to distort every comment that they don't care what damage their remarks may do in order to create a slight temporary political advantage.


Or both.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:31 PM
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5. There's a much more important reason for dumping Harry Reid than this faux pas.
He seems ineffectual.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:34 PM
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6. I think the Rethugs are piling this on him right now to hurt him in the final push
for health care reform.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:36 PM
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9. Could be a blessing in disguise.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:20 PM
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13. How is losing our Senate Leader, and gaining a Republican in the Senate
a Blessing?

Please do share.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:23 PM
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14. He's an icon of corruption
drags the whole party down with his association. Not to mention, at 33% approval rating his seat is almost certainly lost this year at some point anyway.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:26 PM
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16. I think you have just described the Republican party.
Harry Reid may be a lot of things, but he is ours.

FUCK YOUR REPUBLICAN PRAYER CALLED A "BLESSING"!
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kiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:41 PM
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20. You might want to educate yourself about Nevada politics
before you say 'almost certainly lost'...it's not that Harry is very popular here - he isn't - but that the Republicans can't come up with a candidate that is any more popular. Jim Gibbons? Messy divorce, financial questions, he (with any luck) won't be able to hold onto his seat next election - his own lawyer basically admitted that fact. Not a lot of other high profile Republicans.

There are some Dems I'd like to see challenge Harry, but in all honesty Nevada isn't likely to send a liberal to the Senate.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:47 PM
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21. He can resign his leadership position without resigning his seat.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:34 PM
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7. i'll k&r that!
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:36 PM
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8. Harry:" If thou thinkest twice before thou speakest once, thou wilt speak thrice
the better for it." William Penn
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:32 PM
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18. Double Standards..What Clinton said was much worst..

Clinton told Kennedy: "A few years ago,this guy(Obama) would have been getting us Coffee"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x118879
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 10:19 PM
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22. Don't go there. The same book claims Obama wasn't as interested in poverty as Hillary.
Edited on Sun Jan-10-10 10:20 PM by jesus_of_suburbia
I know the book was talking about Bill...
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 10:40 PM
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24. So if its a book of half truths, where's the fact checking?
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