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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:16 AM
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This stuff over Reid shows far more about the media then about Reid.
Yes, what Harry said was stupid and outdated but it was the truth and over all it was a big freaking nothing.
The win and sound machine whipping this "thing" up shows just how craven and politically manipulated
much of the media has become.

points

1) Michael Steele played the lowest of the low race cards when he lied and said that people threw Oreos at him
when he was speaking. Where is the outrage over that.

2) Both the Congressional Black Caucus & President Obama have accepted Reid's apology and yet the republicans
are feigning outrage over the "racist remarks" ..... even though the republicans have played "the race card" over
and over ..... Willy Horton, voter caging lists, Barack the Magic Negro, and so on ....

:grr:


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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:29 AM
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1. If Republicans are screaming that Reid should resign over the comments in that book
then all Republicans who attended Teabagger Rallies and did not speak out against the sickening racist signs in the crowds should immediately resign. Then I'd listen to them. Now? Republicans continue to be despicable bald-faced hypocrites writ large.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:31 AM
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2. How do they live with themselves?
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:34 AM
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3. Oh come on those lynching jokes and the guns were all in good fun ....
.....
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:25 AM
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16. You are kinder than I.
Nothing would make me listen to them, except inadvertently, and even then, I wouldn't believe a word of their very selective "outrage."
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:42 AM
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4. we can beat the republicans...we can't beat the republicans AND the media
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:49 AM
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5. The fairness doctrine or some sort of balance must be returned.
The total failure to cover what happened in Ohio 2004 or the "success of the surge" story
are perfect examples of the problem that faces us.


BTW I am scared that Rachel, Keith, and Ed will dumped soon after the buy out of NBC.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:19 AM
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8. We Just Did
If the media had been balanced, it would have been a landslide of epic proportions. (Well, that if if Obama had been a white guy.) But, despite that, he won convincingly.

I agree with you in principle, but it's not an absolute, because if it were, we'd have VP Palin right now.
GAC
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:28 AM
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17. well, i think the offering of palin & mccain was sooo lame they couldn't overcome it
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 04:47 PM
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19. Sort Of My Point
All we have to do is to rely on the them to do something stupid. (It's not an unrealistic goal. They just got lucky with the Siverspoon and Gin GRINCH.)

We're on the same page. I just think the "masses" see it more than you do.
GAC
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Vermontgrown Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:08 AM
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6. CNN
reporters are well paid employees that have overlooked that very fact. It's like not being able to see the forest through the trees. Everyday they turn their backs on Americans. One example was how the balloon boys parents in an interview were analyzed to the point where the cops got reinvolved, after anchor Sanchez pointed out what the little son said. The cops before that were going to let it go. But, The anchor got the cops to take another look at the interview, and decided to dig deeper. Maybe giving interviews can work against you if they areable to reanalyze everything you say.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:18 AM
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7. Which may have affected the outcome.
Once the media jumped all over that there was no turning back. It HAD to be a hoax. Of course we don't know why the kid said that or if it was even true. I watched his father on Larry King and he is now saying that it wasn't a hoax, and that they plead guilty to avoid stiff sentences. Considering the momentum that CNN started, I am tending now to believe him.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:28 AM
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9. It was the truth? What exactly is a negro dialect?
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:35 AM
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10. The media and the book
So far the incidents in the book which have been spotlighted (and in Reid's case with huge klieg lights) have all focused on Democrats.

I agree with you about the manipulation going on there and the Steele comparison shows that clearly.

I'm also wondering about whether the media is just picking these parts out of that book or if that book is also mainly focused in this direction.

I mean - hello - Giuliani was a candidate and clearly plenty there given his history that could be focused on yet I haven't seen much there. And this, when he just had that big new lie about terror attacks out there ready to compare back to his history on this.

Is it because they chose not to include this stuff in the book or focus on it now in the media or both?
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:40 AM
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11. How about the part of the book where the McCain staff called Palin crazy?
She kept calling Joe Biden, Joe O'Biden.

http://rawstory.com/2010/01/authors-mccain-aides-worried-palin-mentally-unstable/

This is media and republican generated faux outrage.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:46 AM
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13. Agree and there do seem some interests in the Republican party and media
that are cutting her loose and they are "telling all" there.

But where are the equivalent pieces on potential Republican candidates who were in the last race?
Giuliani, Huckabee, etc seem to be getting a free ride or if they aren't in the book, then I've heard nothing comparing to what's excerpted from it on Clinton, Edwards, etc.
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:44 AM
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12. If a Republican Senator had said it
would you still maintain it was "a big freaking nothing"? I think not..
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:07 AM
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14. Although Sen. Reid's comments were crass and poorly said he did have a ..
.... a grain of truth in what he said and to me at least the big story is the faux outrage
along w/ the media's pushing this meme is what the American people should be looking at.

And if a republican had said the same thing that Harry said I would not have any problems w/ them saying it.
Fact: an articulate lighter skinned African American is a lot less threatening to many Americans than
a darker skinner person who is not well spoken.

When I went to college there was real tension between some of African students and some American black students
because the Africans were uncomfortable with the speech of some of the American black students. Some of the
Africans who spoke the "Queens English" were horrified @ the way some of the African American Students spoke.

just my thought .... peace.






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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:14 AM
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15. Yep.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:39 AM
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18. i think Reid shows how very out of touch he is.
I'm not calling for his head but he has probably outlived his usefulness, if he ever had any.

No wonder Harry is such a chump when dealing with the Republicans, he probably thinks its the 50's and they'll act in some fashion of good faith and if nothing else take their job seriously and the Ike will get them in line.

I don't want this guy as Senate Leader but that's not a new condition but it does highlight a pretty solid example of Harry not being with it.

Then again, I'm of course not interested in responding in a fashion that validates hypocritical Republicans but going forward I think something ougt to be done with ole Jack Benny there but it has nothing to do with racisim but more just being out of it, which i'm sure is very common in the Senate.

Negro dialect? Really? Come on man!!!
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