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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:19 PM
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Pope calls gay marriage an 'attack on creation'
Pope Benedict XVI has called gay marriage laws an "attack" on the natural differences between men and women.

Speaking just after Portugal's parliament voted to legalise same-sex marriage, the pontiff addressed the comments to the Vatican diplomatic corps in a message which focused on environmental issues.

This is not the first time he has used environmental messages to preach about the sins of gay people.

In an end-of year address in 2008, he said that the existence of gay people threatens humanity as much as the destruction of the rainforests does and that "blurring" genders through acceptance of transgender people would kill off the human race.

According to AFP, he spoke about protecting or endangering creatures including humans in today's address and said: "One such attack comes from laws or proposals which, in the name of fighting discrimination, strike at the biological basis of the difference between the sexes."

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/01/11/pope-calls-gay-marriage-an-attack-on-creation/
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:23 PM
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1. Idiot
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 02:08 AM
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50. and celebacy isn't. the pope is a dick. oh wait, he can't use it.
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:28 PM
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2. What a turd.
Same-sex marriage = bad. Child fucking and cover-up of said child fucking = good.
Gotta love it. Give me that ol' time religion!
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:31 PM
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3. They're gay, Bennie, not infertile.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:31 PM
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4. So what are "celibate" men who wear dresses and molest children
(including male children) an "attack on"?
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:50 PM
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43. those are called pedophiles....and they are not gay...
Edited on Mon Jan-11-10 11:52 PM by winyanstaz
they are sick bastards that prey on kids.
Sometimes they are also called priests.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:03 PM
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57. that was kind of exactly my point
Gay is not something one "chooses"

Gay is natural

Gay is normal

So I think Ratzo has better things to do as far as cleaning his own house is concerned. Child predators ARE actually an attack on creation.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:48 AM
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59. yup...
and I was just agreeing in a backwards sort of way :P
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Atticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:31 PM
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5. "You no play-a the game, you no make-a the rules".---Earl Butz, Nixon's Secretary
of Agriculture, about a previous pope.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:32 PM
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6. Bigot. n/t
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:33 PM
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7. We all know Ratzinger's not able to EVOLVE....
Edited on Mon Jan-11-10 08:33 PM by hlthe2b
so, somehow, this does not surprise me. Catholic POrtugal gave him quite a fit, I guess, with their recent legalization of gay marriage. (I can almost hear him stomping his red prada slippers)
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:33 PM
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8. "blurring" genders through acceptance of transgender people would kill off the human race
if that statement weren't so offensive, I would rofl. I really don't think that God would choose someone so ignorant to be his/her voice on earth.
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:35 PM
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9. There's nothing I love more than listening to an 80 year old virgin criticize my sex life.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:51 PM
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44. exactly :).....
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:36 PM
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10. Forkboy calls the Pope an attack on intelligence.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:37 PM
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11. oh gawd
and people really want to hear what this assclown has to say? pitiful
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:38 PM
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12. Dear Pope,
My sainted Irish Catholic mom left the Church after 65 years over all the money spent to defeat gay marriage in Maine. Nice going. :thumbsup:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:38 PM
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13. A n enabler of child RAPISTS opens his pie hole
Ex-Nazi POS
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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:40 PM
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14. the Pope himself is an "attack on creation"
and I have to wonder, how many priests and nuns are gay/lesbian and joined the Catholic church to disguise their homosexuality.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:41 PM
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16. Says the guy in the gold-leaf hat and red leather shoes.
:eyes:
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:42 PM
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17. My guess is that he would say the same thing about birth control. nt
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:42 PM
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18. Cool - Is he going to smite Ham & Hovind?
Oh, I thought you meant Creationism.

My bad.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:43 PM
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19. Another 283,583 Catholics lost
Keep it up, Papa Ratzi. Pretty soon, you'll have alienated HALF of your flock.

Dumbass.
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mindwalker_i Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:10 PM
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20. As a straight married man
The pope can go fuck himself.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:18 PM
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21. Recommend. Nutso the Nazi is my least favorite Pope.
They're all obnoxious and presumptuous, but he's really a world class jerk.
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greennina Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:35 PM
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22. It is an attack on creating more people...
and that's a great thing. If about 7/8 of the people in the world dissappeared, it would be great for the planet.

Of course, do you really expect an admitted member of white supremesist group to make sense? He wasn't just a run of the mill KKK member like all of the Republicans here. He was a Nazi.
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:42 PM
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23. If I were a praying man,*
I'd pray for puffs of white smoke over Vatican City. For starters.

*not
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:45 PM
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24. Ah Pope Rat, what would the world do without your medieval insights?
:freak:
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stillwaiting Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:48 PM
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25. This language is what kills and destroys people's lives.
May he find his karmic due.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:57 PM
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26. He is a bigot
and he promotes bigotry. :grr:

And yet people whine and complain if we don't pretend to respect this asshole. :wtf:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:59 PM
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27. He'd love to bring the mother church back to the 10th century
and he is an idiot.

By the way idiot, what will be about 10% of the population doing what OTHER HIGHER CHORDATES do as well?

Oh never mind, we are above nature, aren't we? :sarcasm:
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:03 PM
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28. Just wondering when he thinks all this "blurring of genders" business started
I mean, did it just start in October of 1992?


Maybe his Pope-ness doesn't realize that gays, etc., have been around for millennia. If what he says is true about it killing off the human race, we should all be dead ten times over.

sigh...even popes can be idiots....
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:04 PM
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29. idiot
but no different from all the other idiots opposed to gay marriage. Well, a little different, since some people seem to take his shit seriously.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:05 PM
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30. like the gown, but your handbag is on fire, you asshole
n/t
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:10 PM
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31. Says a celibate with no children who encourages other men to do the same?
The irony meter just broke.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:42 PM
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32. So, Hitler Youth wasn't?
What a fuckhead. He needs to atone for his bullshit before he goes throwing stones at others.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:54 PM
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33. A man in a hand embroidered dress, red Prada shoes and a hat that would embarrass Aretha
really has no business holding others to strict gender roles.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:55 PM
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34. "Celibate" child molesters are an attack on "creation". nt
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:57 PM
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35. We live in the age of science. Where is the scientific evidence of a creator, Mr Pope? nt
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:02 PM
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36. Nazi Popes fuck off.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:03 PM
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37. heh
:thumbsup:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:04 PM
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38. I award you +1 internet.
Use it wisely.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:05 PM
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39. I wont spend it all in one place!
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:15 PM
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40. would someone please cast him into the sea
Edited on Mon Jan-11-10 11:17 PM by Generic Other
in front of the Japanese whaling fleet?

Oh and edited to add. Didn't his God make the first transgender person out of Adam's rib?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:17 PM
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41. And who would know more about attacks than an alumnus of the Hitlerjugend?
:shrug:
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:43 PM
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42. fuck you pope nazi.
religion will be the final blow to this planet.....
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:53 PM
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45. To hell with that fool
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:15 AM
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46. Mr Ratzinger is an abomination unto the Lord
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 12:19 AM by Betty Karlson
Every time he uses God's holy name, he does so in connection with lies, distortions, or superstitions that have nothing o do with God's laws and grace. The man is a continuous blasphemy.

May God forgive him - few others will.

Incidentally, for someone so vociferous in his objections to the death penalty, it was probably too much to ask to pontificate on the present plight of gay and lesbian people in Uganda (where even the suspicion of being gay can get you a death sentence)? Of course it was. He was probably too busy wooing the homophobe anglicans of Nigeria to come over to his church.
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:43 AM
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47. Because Jesus was all about the hate, I'm sure he's glad you're
here to represent him, Ratzi.
:sarcasm:
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:50 AM
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48. The altar boys under his gilded dress agree. n/t
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:54 AM
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49. Better go after the animal kingdom then, RATzinger.
Lots of same-sex lovin' going on there.

I can't believe that there are still people dumb enough to give a fuck what this moron says in this day and age.

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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 02:24 AM
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51. Now that I think of it, I guess it is.
Discrimination against homosexuals is bullshit, and so is creation. If you've got to defend all the bullshit at the same time, then yeah, calling out one obvious bit of bullshit is sure to draw attention to all the other bullshit, and the next thing you know the Cardinals are fighting over the Tarn-X 'cause you can't afford to buy it in bulk anymore.

But I happen to think that a smart guy like the Pope can probably figure out how to admit one of those two things is crap, while still keeping an army of doofuses on the line for all those other things.

Between you and me, Ben, I'd tell 'em God said it.
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tango-tee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:39 AM
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52. I really hate to admit it,
but I'm from Germany. Worse, I'm from Bavaria. This is also where I live at the moment. Bavaria, where in this fool's home town they bake pope-cakes (shouldn't they be perhaps be called poop-cakes) in his honor?

Is there no end to this idiocy? There are times I want to despair.

In solidarity and love with my GLBT brothers and sisters.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:43 AM
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53. Won't somebody please think of the big bang!
How will it stand this attack!
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:36 AM
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54. Is Pope's God shaking in his boots like he is? Such little faith! nt
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:41 AM
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55. Jesus never said that.
And Jesus never said not to use condoms.

This guy should concentrate on what Jesus taught, instead of just making stuff up.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 10:51 AM
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56. The Catholic Church is becoming more irrelevant every day.
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 10:51 AM by mnhtnbb
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 02:20 PM
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58. how come more catholics have not questioned their faith and religious leaders since
this guy was "voted" in?

dumbfounding.

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