The TSA lied: naked-scanners can store and transmit images

[pokerfan]

The TSA has stated publicly that images cannot be stored on the machines and that images are deleted from the scanners once an airport operator has examined them.

The administration has also insisted that the machines are incapable of sending images.

They lied.

Documents obtained by the Electronic Privacy Information Center, which include technical specifications and vendor contracts, indicate that the TSA requires vendors to provide equipment that can store and send images of screened passengers when in testing mode, according to CNN.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/01/airport-scanners

[yodoobo]

1. Of course.

Where do we think we got all those samples we see on the Internet?

They were stored and transmitted.

It always cracked me up when they said the pictures can't be viewed away from the machine and then two seconds later then show a sample to "prove" how non-invasive they are.

[Canuckistanian]

2. Comedy gold

Those TSA reps are hilarious.

[Bucky]

3. How could they NOT store security data if they know they'll want to review it if it fails?

I'm willing to do my part. I'm willing to fly naked. I free my willy for America.

With my freely exposed penis, I salute the flag.

[dem mba]

23. I don't mind showing off my goods either

but I shudder to think of some perverted TSA guy uploading naked pics of my 3-yr old nephews or girlfriend to the Internet.

And yes, if a terrorist does get on board a flight, through this screening, wouldn't we want to pull up his screened image?

[Alcibiades]

4. People are worried about being seen naked?

Fuck that: WORRY ABOUT THE GODDAMN CANCER.

People are afraid of a bomb that may kill hundreds of people, but have no problem with radiation that will kill tens of thousands.

[Haole Girl]

6. +1

[tavalon]

10. I know it seems silly to you and me, but we need to use whatever

works to get rid of these damned machines. People don't get instant feedback on the cancer causing aspect (never do, that's why some people still smoke, drink alcohol and eat carcinogenic food) but a modest person will know immediately that they are being viewed nekkid.

[The Backlash Cometh]

17. That's what I've been saying

The exposure to those they profile will be significant.

[Hekate]

20. TSA employees need to form a union and demand OSHA testing of the equipment they stand next to...

... all day, every day. I'm worried about myself having to go through the various equipment a couple of times a year -- but what about the workers?

I know that forming a union has been impossible for them up to this point, but now it looks like there's a glimmer of hope. The nominee to hold the director's post is being held up in the Senate because he won't promise to forbid union organizing. When he finally gets there, I hope that lengthy process starts shortly after. Fingers crossed.

Hekate

[howaboutme]

5. Believe at your own risk

"They" say that there is no radiation danger, that privacy is assured, that they can't and won't save the images, that they can't be transmitted. My bet is on seeing them on the internet in a year.

The only assurance I believe is that "they" always lie. Our government has become so geared to propaganda and lying that they no longer know how to tell the truth.

Our leader Nancy Pelosi could have done much to reverse this culture of pathological lying if only she would have put the impeachment of Bush and Cheney ON instead of OFF the table. We need a major smackdown of the abuse of the executive branch so that the people and US Constitution are back in vogue as the reason for and the power behind our government again.

I've been trying to figure out motives and capabilities of why this was taken off the table and it comes down to one question. What single group has enough power to influence (control) the Democratic leadership and also has the incentive to protect the abuses and wrongful intelligence used by the neocon Republicans behind Iraq and 9-11?

I respect and contribute to EPIC.

[Alcibiades]

7. They also told my dad Agent Orange was safe

He's fine, but my brother has Downs.

[The Backlash Cometh]

18. Government is Soylent Green!

Anything that a corporation touches is corruptible.

[EFerrari]

8. They lied to us? Inconceivable!

[LiberalFighter]

9. Where do they store the images? At the TSA's directors office?

How many are images of minors? Wouldn't that be a child porn thing?

[pitohui]

13. the uk has already said it's child porn if the flyer is under age 18

of course the scanner creates and stores images, hell, that's the whole purpose of the device

[Gormy Cuss]

11. Of course they have that capacity. The only thing TSA can assure is that their machines won't use it

and if you believe that the images of celebrities, hot bodies and malformed ones won't be stored and sent, I have this nice bridge for sale, cheap -- you should buy it:

[pitohui]

12. yes of course they scan and store images, they are digital images

we've had the technology to scan/store digital images for quite a few decades now

only the stupid people would even believe the lie, everyone knows that the scanner creates an image and that any image -- ANY digital image -- can be very easily and cheaply stored

[seeinfweggos]

14. i can foresee a big scandal within a few years of these being in place

kiddie porn, celebrity porn, everyday people porn

it will be entertaining and disgusting when it happens (the way we like our scandals), but predictable

[Nye Bevan]

15. Hmmm. So they could set up an internet site

with a subscription system..... this thing could pay for itself, or maybe even turn a profit!

[The Backlash Cometh]

16. They're also not telling people they have an option and are abusing

their power

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7431550

I wouldn't be surprised if they have the technology to do a full xray to check if someone is packing like a mule. How would you know if there's no objective party checking? How would you know? The radiation would then be significant.

All this baloney selling the fact that the person who pushes the button and checks the screen is not even in the same room. Of course he's not in the same room. If he were, he'd be exposed to too many x-rays.

[spanone]

19. of course they can keep them. they will be evidence. and they will end up on the internet.

everything that can happen, will

[seabeyond]

21. only the cowards.... back this shit. i truly cannot believe people allow fear

to establish these abuses.

torture
nsa
patriot act
war

cowards

and they are sitting up the younger generation

cause they are cowards

[JoeyT]

22. Authoritarians lied to us?

I'm shocked!
Ten bucks says this will not only be the new source of child pornography, but also the source of naked celebrity pictures.
It'll be nice to see one of our bogeymen run up against another one.

Hopefully we'll see the mentality of the crazy people that work in the photolab of Wal-Mart and report parents for having a picture of their kid in diapers versus the TSA in a winner takes the loser and they both piss off smackdown.