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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:57 AM
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Obama's recent poll #s: Gallup 49%, CBS 46%, Rasmussen 46%
Edited on Tue Jan-12-10 12:02 PM by highplainsdem
That's the CBS poll published yesterday

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/11/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6084818.shtml

Rasmussen yesterday and today

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

and Gallup yesterday -- and possibly today, since this is the number from their home page, the daily averages:

http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx

And yeah, I know, many people are suspicious of Rasmussen's numbers, but they match what CBS found, and with Gallup under 50%, you can't exactly call that 46% an outlier.

Rasmussen has also been finding, as CBS found, that Obama's approval ratings are higher for his handling of the war on terror than for his handling of domestic issues, and the health care reform bill in particular is hurting him.

This is one of the reasons I'm concerned about this particular health care reform bill, in its present form.

As I posted yesterday, re the CBS poll about the health care bill, the numbers indicate people want a more liberal bill.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/11/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6084856.shtml

Rasmussen also found that the excise tax on "Cadillac" plans is very unpopular.

Voters Agree Only on Taxing The Rich To Pay for Health Care Plan

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/january_2010/voters_agree_only_on_taxing_the_rich_to_pay_for_health_care_plan

Sixty-four percent (64%) of all voters favor imposing an income tax surcharge on individuals who earn more than $500,000 a year and couples who earn more than $1 million a year. Just 35% are opposed.
However, a proposal to enact a significant excise tax on the most expensive health insurance plans provided by employers is supported by just 32% of voters. It is opposed by 59%.


Given these numbers, the obvious White House preference for the Senate bill over the House bill, and the excise tax over a tax on the wealthiest Americans, is political suicide. And the White House will be pushing Dems in Congress over that cliff first.

I think it's time for President Obama to put all his political capital behind the House bill, or even a more liberal version of it, before he throws away all the gains the party made in recent years.

And I don't care what private deals he cut with various corporations, or how much they've donated or promised to donate, or whether Obama somehow believes that a bill that pisses off a lot of his own base is somehow better because it's "bipartisan."

The Senate version of the HCR bill a train wreck, and disastrous for the Democratic Party.

David Axelrod thinks they can somehow "sell" the Democratic base on the HCR bill after it's passed. (That was among the quotes from him that I posted yesteray.) That's as much a fantasy as the delusional trickle-down economics behind their theory that if they tax the Cadillac health plans and employers drop them in favor of cheaper plans offering less coverage, those employer savings will be passed along to the employees as higher wages.

Mr. President, your base is calling. The American people are calling, through these polls. The unions are calling.

Are you listening?
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 11:59 AM
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1. knr.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:43 PM
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18. Thanks!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:02 PM
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2. "But as is often the case with polls from recent months, Republicans still aren't capitalizing."
Funny, everything you post is anti-Obama. Why aren't you pointing this out??? Seems your motives are clear to me.


http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_01/021875.php

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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:04 PM
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4. Who uses Rasmussen as a legitimate poll around here?
I will wait to see how the other polls are this month and how Gallup is today. A few days ago it was 52%.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:09 PM
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8. You keep telling yourself that.
Pretend that this HCR bill being unpopular, coupled with all the other ways the admin has cozied up to the banks while foreclosures and unemployment still plague millions won't depress turnout in November.

I'd suggest you get off the 'puter and organize support in your community for this bill. Stop shilling here, we're sick of it and it's not persuading us. Go out in your city or town and sell the voters on this "reform", if you can.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:12 PM
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9. Guess what, doll. I don't give a damn what you think. And as for
shilling, go look in the mirror, then take your own advice! :rofl: :hi:
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:37 PM
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16. It's not about what I think, babylon. It's about what the voters think.
Looks like they think this HCR bill sucks ass. That's a problem.

Get off your ass and off the computer and get thee to a phone bank or canvassing. Unless you realize deep inside that there's no way you're going to sell this turkey to the public so you'll just content yourself playing keyboard commando with fellow liberals.

:hi:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 02:55 PM
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22. He has 80% Democratic support.
Go ahead and side with the bad guys, no skin off my back.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 02:59 PM
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23. Then you should have no problem organizing from among those supportive Dems
To get them to go out and get support for HCR with the independent voters that we'll need to hold onto support of both the House and Senate.

Get going.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 03:04 PM
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24. Obama has solid Democratic support in the real world.
It's to your detriment to ignore that fact. DU isn't the real world.

HCR is going to pass no matter what you do to try to kill it.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 03:12 PM
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26. I have no power to kill any bill.
There are people who have power to kill the bill. They are called members of Congress. Sen. Nelson and Rep. Stupak threatened to kill unless they got to sniff women's panties. Sen. Lieberman threatened to kill it unless they stripped the PO, the Medicare buy-in, the trigger, and a host of other good things.

But you supporters on DU are strangely silent about them while you've got plenty to say about us dirty hippies who are somehow irrelevant, and yet, incredibly dangerous at the same time.

Meanwhile you are sitting on your ass in front of a computer and not calling for Democratic volunteers or persuading independent voters to like this HCR. Talk about irrelevant.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 03:42 PM
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28. it's to your detriment to continue to believe that democratic support alone will win the election
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 05:01 PM
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30. Maybe he lives in a solid-blue district. Some of us are not so fortunate.
3 of our Dem Congresscritters here in AZ are top targets for pickups by the GOP. People HATE this HCR and I'm talking about Dems and independents because we don't even talk to teabaggers. It's viewed as an attack on the middle class, especially with this excise tax. And no, the average voter is not amenable to some uber-wonk explanation of cost curve bending and wage pressures.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 03:09 PM
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25. If I was polled I would say he has my support
because I am a Dem. In private, I have a totally different opinion. I wonder how many that answer the polls still are hoping for some bold leadership.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 04:52 PM
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29. Same here. eom
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:27 PM
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13. I want him to keep his campaign promises. You don't seem to care whether he does.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:02 PM
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3. Any minute now the Ezra Klein and Paul Krugman wannabes will be along
To persuade us that the excise tax is a good thing.

Obliviousness: Must be nice.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:05 PM
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5. Obama'd be at 90-percent approval had he sided with We the People rather than Wall Street...
...and War Inc.
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:06 PM
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6. Looks like the Repugs and Repugs in disguise (FDL) are not having any effect
These numbers are still quite good despite the efforts of some to belittle/slander our President.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:09 PM
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7. Those numbers are not that bad considering the mess the economy is in...
and the non-stop 7x24 bashing he is getting from Faux and conservative talk shows.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:12 PM
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10. So?
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Godhumor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:23 PM
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11. You're missing something in the CBS to Ras comparison
Even though they both have Obama at 46, Ras has him at a -7 spread (46-53) while CBS has him at a +5 (46-41). The 46 is the same but the story is quite different.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:27 PM
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12. President Obama is listening to his community base .... the business community and Wall Street
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:32 PM
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14. Considering the dynamics and intensity of the economic meltdown this man inherited
it is surprising his approval numbers have remained this high.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:33 PM
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15. Those numbers are invalid.
Only flattering news about Obama is actually true. The negative stuff is all corporate propaganda.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:41 PM
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17. Obama and most Dems are corporatists
Wake up time yet? Republicans and Democrats have been different sides of the same damn coin for many years. Corporatists will not listen to workers, they fight against us.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 02:00 PM
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19. k/r
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 02:43 PM
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20. Thanks, emilyg!
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 03:13 PM
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27. Bill Clinton agrees with Axelrod, he said HCR will be more popular after it is passed
and all the debate is over.



I tend to defer to the Big Dog on issues like what is or is not politically viable.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 05:25 PM
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31. Daily Kos - Obama 56%
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