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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:22 PM
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Senate Health Insurance Industry Bill Includes Many Republican Proposals




10 Pounds Overweight? Got High Cholesterol? It Could Cost You Big Unless the Dems Fix the Health Care Bill
By Adele M. Stan, AlterNet
January 12, 2010.

A little-discussed provision of the Senate bill allows insurers to expand so-called wellness programs that allow insurers to penalize subscribers by hundreds—and even thousands—of dollars for not meeting certain "wellness targets," such as a particular cholesterol number, blood sugar measurement or body-weight target.

Remember all those Democrats pleading plaintively, in the face of Republican accusations that the GOP had been cut out of the health care debate, that actually they included many Republican ideas in their health care bills? Well, this is one of them. One of the pro-business innovations of the Bush administration was to introduce into health insurance regulations a provision allowing employers to offer loosely defined "wellness" programs that carry incentives for employees meeting certain standards of premium reductions of as much as 20 percent. Sounds like a pretty good deal, right? Sure, until you realize that there's no baseline for the original premium, meaning that, in reality, people who don't meet the standards are really carrying the burden of others' discounts and then some—paying as much as 20 percent more for a policy in which a family member's failure to meet a wellness target forces up the entire premium for that family's policy.

If you think that's a raw deal, consider the Senate health care bill provision introduced by Sen. John Ensign, the disgraced Republican of Nevada. Now that percentage of discount or penalty, depending on which end one finds oneself, can amount to a differential in one's premium to 30 percent, and eventually to 50 percent.

"Insurers can spot profits a mile away, and this is a loophole they will drive right through on day one," said Andrew Kurz, the former chief financial officer of Wisconsin Blue Cross-Blue Shield on a recent conference call with reporters convened by the advocacy group, Health Care for America Now. "We got into this mess because insurers unfairly targeted sick people and charged higher premiums based on illness status. To now charge lower premiums based on wellness status can lead to the same result. Like the water glass, half full or half empty, it is still the same amount of water."

In other words, while insurers may no longer be able to drop your coverage for a preexisting condition such as high blood pressure, under the Senate bill they will be able to charge you and your employer as much as 50 percent more for your total premium cost if you fail to meet a targeted blood pressure or cholesterol measurement. These wellness programs are predicated on the notion that your workplace will offer support for meeting your targets, though standards for that support are nearly nonexistent. For example, if your employer, in the guise of a wellness program, offers little more than an aromatherapy session for reducing stress, you could still be penalized for your stress-exacerbated condition, according to Sue Nelson, vice president of federal policy for the American Heart Association.

Read the full article at:

http://www.alternet.org/politics/145038/10_pounds_overweight_got_high_cholesterol_it_could_cost_you_big_unless_the_dems_fix_the_health_care_bill

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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:23 PM
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1. very corporate
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:45 PM
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2. Since this bill is more business centere than people centered,
it is a bill on right side of political spectrum.

Chris Wallace, Fox, has stated: If the Senate Bill had been
available at the very beginning, this bill would have garnered
Republican Votes. Since the GOP decided, it would be in
their best interest to oppose HCIR, they cannot appear
to approve anything. This bill is really more right than
left.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:46 PM
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3. K&R
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:53 PM
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4. It is a Republican bill. It's the one Arnold wanted for California and that
Mittens pushed on Massachusetts. We need some real democrats representing us in this country not right wing religious nuts and centrist business friendly Republicans even though they run as Democrats.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:55 PM
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5. You are correct
But if this bill becomes law, with only Democratic votes, can you guess what's going to be the subject for the 2010 election cycle?

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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:00 PM
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6. It just shows that all of this is just Kabuki theater.
None of the Republicans are going to vote for this bill anyway, so what is the f*cking point of including f*cking Republican amendments??

"Spirit of bipartisanship" my ass.

:grr:

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