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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:17 PM
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Democrats’ Mission Impossible: Selling Vague Promises of Future Health Reform (Jon Walker)
Edited on Wed Jan-13-10 02:22 PM by highplainsdem
http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/01/13/democrats%E2%80%99-mission-impossible-selling-vague-promises-of-future-health-reform/

Democrats are preparing a campaign to sell the American people on their health care reform bill after it passes. To put it simply, this is going to be a painfully difficult job.


"Lacking allied voices and faced with unflinching GOP opposition, the burden on the White House and congressional Democrats to sell a completed health care package is undoubtedly steep. But a strategy is already materializing. A Senate leadership aide tells the Huffington Post that a five-pronged video series is in the works to be released shortly after the bill is signed into law. The big push is to put people who will immediately benefit from the legislation on center stage. Expect Facebook groups and community-centered events, sources said.

"Among the policy provisions that Democrats feel are easiest to pitch are the funds set to go to preventive care, the elimination of the practice of discriminating against pre-existing conditions and the benefits of the overall package for small businesses. Lawmakers, meanwhile, will be provided with tailor-made bullet points to use when they are back home or on TV — with the benefits of the bill broken down along lines of income, gender, age and other subsections."



The fact that the bill will have pissed off union members and progressives who would normally be defending reform is really just the start of the Democrats’ problems with the sales job. The biggest obstacle is that, basically, there will be nothing to sell. A few small improvements are made relatively quickly, but 98% of the bill does not go into effect until 2014. For example, the ban on excluding pre-existing conditions does not take effect for four years! Selling vague and distant promises is a nightmare.

Let’s pretend the bill were progressive enough for me. Let’s pretend it has a robust public option, a national exchange with super tough regulation, true community rating, standardized high-quality low cost sharing plan design, generous affordability tax credits, drug re-importation, etc. Even if the bill did all this, I would still find selling this bill, which I strongly support, to be extremely difficult because it would not help almost anyone for four years. “Just trust me, everything will be great sometime half-way through Obama’s second term,” is a terrible sales slogan.

The easiest way to sell people on something is to have them feel and see it working. Selling even a great bill with its benefits delayed for years would be a huge uphill battle, selling this deeply flawed bill without support from the base seems like an impossibility.

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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:20 PM
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1. Somehow "Trust us" doesn't inspire me to do that
It makes me want to make sure I know where my wallet is.
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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:27 PM
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2. The reason it's so difficult to sell to the public
is that they made it so complicated, it's virtually impossible for the public to understand. For every provision in the bill, there's an exception or loophole.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:28 PM
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3. who is paying for this "5-pronged video" and assorted other propaganda shit?
they blew it and now are using taxpayer dollars to tell us how lucky we are, first, to be totally ignored (and even arrested), and then to be soundly robbed.

fuck all of them.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:33 PM
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4. Yep, just have
Them all fucked. By monsters from another universe with very mean and toothy appendages.

No health treatment follow up, either. After all, does any insurance policy carry a provision for harmful contact with aliens?
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:39 PM
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5. can you believe this outrage? NOW they're "concerned"
I will be watching in glee as the entire country rebels against this. They didn't want our input, they won't get our cooperation.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:49 PM
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7. they will not get mine. n/t
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:43 PM
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6. These Democrats are assholes
I am so disgusted. The ban on pre-existing conditions really irks me. It should be close-to immediate not years away. How do they justify that? Oh yeah, with some convoluted high-risk pool that the denied can try and utilize for a few years.

I just don't get it. Obama was a campaign genius but he and his team seem to be off in never-never land on this most important issue.

My guess is that if the bill passes in anything like the current form, that there will be a strong push for repeal. You think things are ugly now? Just wait...
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 03:35 PM
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11. And even when they start "covering" pre-existing condiditions
there is no guarantee that the only policy that will be available will have out of pocket expenses that are so high that people still won't be able to afford care.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 02:57 PM
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8. "tailor-made bullet points"--sort of like what we've been seeing here on DU for a while
I am mad at myself for being drawn back to this OP like a freaking rubbernecker at a ghastly train wreck. The audacity is beyond belief. My outrage just went industrial-strength.

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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 03:23 PM
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9. You can't sell shit..and this is nothing but a big pile of shit! eom
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 03:25 PM
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10. Screw that! Stop trying to shine up a turd and dump it down the toilet where it belongs!
NO OBAMA... I'm NOT forgetting that you screwed us and if I can find a viable candidate to replace you, I WILL back him. Same goes for all you "moderate" dems who have screwed us on this.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:21 PM
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12. kick b/c I don't think enough people have seen this
our need for health care, a right the rest of the civilized world takes for granted, is not going to be filled by slick ad agency slogans, videos, and propaganda.
if the "reform" is so great, why the need to "sell" it?
so glad to see my tax dollars being put to such good use--from Day 1 until the day this abomination dies (and it WILL die, someday, hopefully sooner rather than later), it has been nothing but EPIC FAIL.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:41 PM
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13. knr nt
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:15 PM
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14. K & R !!!
:kick:
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2 Much Tribulation Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 09:40 PM
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15. A few weeks after the bill's signed will be the high water mark for support
if it doesn't just continue to tank but in any case it's all downhill from there, and "there" starts sometime soon or has already passed.
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