Obama asking W to help in Haiti might not be such a bad move at all

[DFW]

Notice the contrast--Clinton jumped right in there, didn't need to be asked, had a charitable organization in
place already. Bush volunteered nothing. Hell, he and Cheney had nothing to offer. Now, instead of watching it
silently from their country clubs, now he and Cheney are put in the national spotlight by Obama, reminding the
American public that these two-and by extension, their party--are totally useless. The last thing the Republicans
want America reminded of in an election year is how they botched Katrina.

Obama, very subtly, has just done exactly that, and in such a way that they can never accuse him of it.

[Liberal In Texas]

1. Agreed. Rec. n/t

[onlyadream]

2. Great move!

I would have loved to see Bush's face when he heard this!

[Zhade]

36. Maybe if we're lucky, the war criminal will trip over some rubble and break his neck.

Since there's no justice...

[Kahuna]

3. The added benefit is hearing how el rushie will spin this this afternoon...

Should be a riot! :popcorn:

[lapfog_1]

4. Only, don't let him do or say anything about how to restructure

Haitian society or government. The neocons still practice "the Shock Doctrine" and this would be a great opportunity for them to extol their vision of a new government for Haiti, a truly horrible outcome from a already horrible disaster.

[DFW]

5. "Restructure" is a three-syllable word

Don't bet on Bush using it in context any time soon.

[lapfog_1]

9. I'm not worried about Bush himself.

More worried about the people who pull the string on the puppet.

If all he does is a PSA asking for money (ala poppy bush for the great tsunami), that's fine... I don't really want to hear his voice again on my TeeVee, but whatever.

[santamargarita]

6. Those fascist pigs help the poor? There is no money in it or political angle

:puke:

[pnorman]

7. As for myself, I don't see "subtle and devious" motives in all of Obama's "conciliarity" moves.

I believe that he's sincere in most if not all instances, and I don't necessarily regard thatt as a weakness. The main thing is that he'lll get things done, and with a minimum of partisan rancor. Perhaps that's the ultimate "deviousness", but is that such a bad thing?

[DFW]

24. Maybe not in all his conciliatory moves, but I sense more than a little in this one

Note the deafening silence of Cheney, Bush, and Republicans in general since this happened.

Obama can only win here, and has nothing to lose. The longer the Republicans debate what's in
for them, the more it looks like all they care about is what's in it for them.

Limbaugh is worth a half billion dollars. All he has contributed so far is verbal vitriol.
Did Limbaugh ask his listeners to contribute for help? I got the email from Clinton and the
CGI within hours.

Bill Clinton is worth nothing like $500 million, and he started organizing help the second he
heard about the disaster. The USA is in deep debt and is organizing what already has to have cost
the country hundreds of millions of dollars in logisitical aid, and Obama didn't hesitate any longer
than Clinton did. The longer the Republicans take to figure out how they want to respond to this, the
worse they look. Theirs is not an instant humanitarian instinct, but rather a calculated one based on
their own potential gain, just like Katrina, and why, after all, should Hatian life be worth more than
American life, right?

I'm sure that when the earthquake struck, political advantage was the farthest thing from Obama's
mind, but the guy is quick, and I'm sure it didn't take him very long to notice that the right
wing was being rather conspicuous in their absence.

[dkf]

8. Bush was an awful president but he has had decent behavior since leaving office

Cheney is the obnoxious one.

I think Obama asking w to help is really classy. It was an invitation to participate where Bush might not have felt as welcome.

Nice.

[Frustratedlady]

10. I rather imagine there was a twinkle in Obama's eyes when they

came up with the idea. He can be crafty when he wants to be. Love it!

[Kahuna]

14. Word.

:evilgrin:

[mopinko]

15. +1 word.

that's my guy. :evilgrin:

[Xenotime]

16. Bush can stay down there and help nail some boards together..

I'd be happy never to see him on US soil again.

[lostnfound]

11. well, maybe it would get some Republicans to donate, too.

They need all the help they can get.

[Faryn Balyncd]

12. He can take Brownie along, as well.

[doc03]

13. Brilliant idea if Bush helps how can Republicans

complain about Obama spending our money down there and if Bush doesn't help he looks like the ass that he is.

[GoCubsGo]

17. Thank you! Somebody gets it.

I think that it's a shame that Idiot Boy had to be asked to help out. I only wish that President Obama's next move will be to come out and say, "I invite Mr. Cheney and his colleagues at Halliburton and their affiliates to give something back in return for all of the billions of dollars in no-bid government contracts they were awarded over the past several years." It won't happen, but perhaps he can get someone in Congress to make that request?

[lame54]

18. give him a one way ticket

[old mark]

19. W is working on his plan for relief of Katrina victims. Haiti will be on his to do list. nt

[Tailormyst]

20. If he can reach people for Donations that Clinton cannot then that is GOOD

The People of Haiti don't give two shit which party the help comes from. They just want to live another day.

[DFW]

22. You are perfectly right, of course. But that begs an uncomfortable question:

ARE there any people out there that Bush can reach (that Clinton cannot) who could be bothered to donate anything?

For my part, I would hope so, but fear otherwise.

[Tailormyst]

23. Yes- I believe there are

[DFW]

26. Dein Wort in Gottes Ohr, as the Germans say

And if you are right, then it would be a nice gesture if Bush would get out there and very publicly ask them to contribute.
In case he has already done so, he must have done it with the utmost of discretion, because I haven't yet heard a word about it.

[DevonRex]

31. I think so. And who knows? If they do something good now maybe

they'll realize that giving isn't such a bad thing.

[UTUSN]

21. Shrub wishes he had the balls to repeat Jeb's answer to Blacks:

When Jeb Crow Shrub was running, a Black woman asked him, "What do you have to offer me?" and he replied, "Nothing."

[G_j]

25. W needs an invitation to the Hague

EOM

[howard112211]

27. +1

[Blue Owl]

28. We wouldn't want to inconvenience

the clown prince of corruption, would we?

[DFW]

29. Oh, why not?

His schedule doesn't appear to be filled with vital appointments these days...........

Besides, just tell him he's going to Haiti. They both begin with "Ha..." so it's doubtful he'd know the difference.

[LaPera]

30. Republicans don't give a shit about poor people or workers, especially ones that are black

They don't see any profit in it....these are republicans you are talking about....have you already forgotten?

[EFerrari]

32. Politically, it's a smart move, no doubt.

[Solly Mack]

34. :)

"Politically"

[era veteran]

33. Maybe they can sober him up and let him cut some brush

[applegrove]

35. Bingo!

[Mithreal]

37. Then Cheney should be asked as well

[DFW]

38. Might as well

At least he knows where Haiti is (in the same general geographic region as the Cayman Islands, and you KNOW he knows where they are!).