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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 02:22 PM
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Obama, Bush and Haiti
Word has it President Obama has reached out to George W. Bush to assist in collecting relief funds for Haiti.

To me, that was a masterstroke.

75% of all charitable giving in the US comes from the Evangelical community (what they give to is another, less savory issue).

George W. Bush is the world heavyweight champion of getting money from these people. He crooks his little finger, and they vaccum up coins from between the couch cushions to give to him.

If Obama is directing that fundraising prowess towards assistance to Haiti, it is exactly the right thing to do.

For the first time in his miserable life, George W. Bush is doing something useful.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 02:23 PM
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1. Makes pretty basic sense to me. n/t
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 02:25 PM
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2. He out-Christian-ed the best of them with that stroke of genius...
Forget chess and checkers, I'm thinking pinochle and euchre! That was a card game move!
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 02:29 PM
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3. ok, now this move at least makes sense. Thanks for explaining the rationale behind it.
:sigh of relief:
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 02:30 PM
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I am not sure I agree, he lost alot of support during his eight years of terror....
I look at it this way, do people honestly believe at this point in time that bush has true credibility with not only the religious base as a whole but the top brass as in money makers? I say no, its all smoke and mirrors, why is it that you don't see all these private speeches from bush that have resulted in hundreds if not thousands of viewers lining up to hear this great martyr speak? You don't hear about it because he has not garnered the support they thought he still had, little or no sails of tickets to these events left him unwilling to push for more...

No, there is no master stroke here, something more...a push to garner support for the Bush name so Jeb has a chance? That is all that I see, if obama wanted help from bush himself, just ask him to donate from his own coffers...there is much more to todays' headlines than simply getting funds...

Mark this post...this is being done to help brush off the negative on the bush name...and for me, it does not fly...
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 02:31 PM
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5. That 25% support he always held on to
is the 25% who funded the GOP so well for those eight years. He still has them in his pocket, and he's pointing them towards Haiti.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 11:21 AM
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15. That twenty five percent you think he still has in his pocket also have not left the
likes of Rush nor the ones who see the need to pay for Robertson types to live in the lap of luxury, the simple fact is, they are at present getting mixed messages, apparently Robertson is on pr patrol and has allowed some of his windfall from the stupid to be used to pay for his image expense so those same Bushido's who are not comfortable with their obvious bigoted inner selves will follow that leader and help just a little those in Haiti,

the other percent of the twenty five, the true racial bigoted egomaniacs that still fawn over rush as being their earth bound God like figure will use his message to excuse themselves of not having nor wanting in the first place to give to Haiti...you know they being christian and all, some of them need to feel a sense of vindication in not giving to those in need...

Sorry but at this time, bush is seen as nothing more to these types of people than a sad person, one they feel has been persecuted by those bad boogie type liberals a martyr so to speak, so they still love him but in all honesty no longer trust him enough to do anything he says...

On the other hand, the ones those twenty five percent are listening to are the reigning high profile bigoted rush and the shallow greedy false profit robertson, they will use those two and a few others still on the mantle of perfection to aid in determining whether they will give aid to those in need..


No, this whole thing with Bush is nothing more than an attempt to either weed him out of hiding or to begin the climb in cleaning up the bush name in time for Jeb to have his day in the sun, the one papa bush really wanted in the first place which proves at least to me, though he is one of those criminals behind the curtains, he is by no means the top dog..I still have yet to figure out just whom holds that title....

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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 02:30 PM
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4. Praise the Lord!

A clear explanation of this development. :evilgrin:
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 02:40 PM
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6. And it invites comparison of Obama's Haiti response success to Bush's Katrina response failure
so the news and blogs can bash the crap out of Bush and the rethugs.
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 02:53 PM
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7. All I know is that it can't hurt.
If Dubya brings in money from people who would not have otherwise donated, then this will be worth it. All that matters is that the people of Haiti get what they need. In this case, the end does justify the means.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 02:59 PM
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8. excellently said-
and I for one, hope it does 'pay-off'.
If Bush refuses, he's the one who has declined a chance to do good, if he accepts and fails, then he's a failure, and if he succeeds, then something good has come from a traditionally destructive source.

:thumbsup:
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 03:33 PM
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9. Caller on a RW radio show:
Edited on Thu Jan-14-10 03:35 PM by Liberal In Texas
"Bush was going to do something, but Obama jumped in first and asked him so he could take all the credit."

It's good thing the people of Haiti won't have to wait for Bush to help them as long as the people of New Orleans did.

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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 03:35 PM
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10. I have no issue
with GWB being involved or Obama asking him. I agree with your post here. :thumbsup:
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 03:56 PM
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11. Something of this nature transcends politics
But there will always be a few, Rush Limbaugh comes to mind that will try and make it somehow political. Republicans will not give to Democrats, no matter what, so for the sake of humanity, get a Republican leader to ask Republicans to open their wallets as well as Democrats.. It was the ONLY decent thing for the leader of our country to do..
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 04:03 PM
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12. Hmm. I remember some Bush money being donated with the stipulation that
it go to buying software which just happened to be sold by Neil Bush. I wouldn't trust that asshole to donate one penny without some string attached to it.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 04:15 PM
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13. But it wouldn't be him donating it.
It'd be his legions of Evangelical followers.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-14-10 05:27 PM
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14. .
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 11:43 AM
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16. Most Haitians are Catholic & Fundies dislike the Catholic Church, so don't count on them to help. nt
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 01:14 PM
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