What were the "Cadillac" health policies called when McCain suggesting taxing them?

[Bluebear]

I don't recall "Cadillac" or "luxury" coming into play, though I could be mistaken.

[stray cat]

1. He wanted to get rid of employer contributions or plans and give you a 5000 tax break

insurance is such a drag for employers

[DJ13]

2. Crappy, stupid, GOP bullshit, the rantings of a crazy guy

But now that its our side that proposes them its a great idea.

(No idea what McCain called it.)

[sandnsea]

3. McCain's plan was to add benefits to income and tax it

That is not what this plan does. Another lie and people need to ask who is telling them the lies and why.

[Edweird]

4. That's EXACTLY what it does.

[sandnsea]

12. The Senate plan does not tax workers directly

It does not add premiums as benefits to your direct income tax. The Senate plan taxes insurance companies.

[Edweird]

15. Yeah, and when you buy stuff at the store, you aren't 'taxed directly' either.

The store is responsible for their 'gross receipt taxes'. But guess what? You get to pay it. This might explain it better for you: http://www.alllaw.com/articles/tax/article1.asp

If you think, for one second, that whatever taxes are levied will not be placed squarely on the consumers, I have ocean front property in Kansas to sell you.

[dkf]

5. How is this different?

McCain just decided to tax it at dollar one. But it is the same tax. That is like saying there is no income tax if you start at higher levels.

[Statistical]

6. Sad thing is that McCain's "plan" provided for a $5000 tax credit to offset the tax.

So many in Union's w/ good healthcare would likely have been less worse off under McCain plan.

<sigh>

[dkf]

7. It's amazing the Dems one upped mccains horrible plan.

[ProSense]

9. "So many in Union's w/ good healthcare would likely have been less worse off under McCain plan."

Absurd.

McCain's plan relies on tax credits for individuals who buy their own coverage while eliminating tax breaks for employers who provide health insurance plans. This week, McCain has called for helping states set up non-profit risk pools to help Americans who can't get coverage on the private market because of pre-existing conditions or because they can't afford it.

link

Under McCain's plan, unions would not have gotten tax breaks and everyone, including the unions, with an employer-based plan would be taxed on the entire amount of their benefits. Not just the excess over the $24,000 threshold.

The excise tax in the health bill makes sense. McCain's plan was nuts.

[sandnsea]

11. The Senate plan taxes insurance companies

It does not tax individuals directly like the McCain plan did. They're completely different and why do you keep propagating the lie that they're the same when you've been told the difference numerous times.

[doc03]

13. Remember the old line from the campaign saying

you can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig.

[sandnsea]

14. Or maybe it's Canadian bacon

But we sure as hell won't know if people keep lying about every damn thing that is done.

[johnaries]

8. Apples and oranges. Besides, it's been worked out.

Obama has done what he does best and worked out a compromise. And has the AFL/CIO President himself has said Obama has
"proven to be a friend of working people".

[dflprincess]

10. I'm wondering if this "compromise" is just a bone they decided to throw to the unions

to make it look like working people actually won one concession from the corporatists - especially given how they "compromised" any actual reform right out of the bill.

The fact is, the Insurance Profit Protection Act still sucks and all this change means is it sucks a little bitty bit less. We are still going to be required to send money to insurance companies for "coverage" with no guarantee that we'll be able to access care.