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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:30 AM
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Hypocrisy
Hell I've even seen many defend Stupak, Nelson and Baucus, just to get any HCR bill passed.

But if Coakley is gonna lose Teddy's seat she's a LOSER Democrat. I've seen people here tearing her to shreds. Why, because she might embarass Obama?? Or because one might have to take a good hard look at themselves for enabling the withering away of principles in the Democratic Platform, all in the name of some pie in the sky bi-partisanship?

What a bunch of yahoo, talk a lots, know nothings, some of you are on here.

How about just sticking to the principles of the party and making your elected officials represent those principles. If you could do that, there would be a hell of a lot less problems and a hell of a lot more progress. Stop blaming liberals for not wanting to vote for a corporatist policies. Hell, I know most here don't want corporatist policies, yet they are the loudest screamers and hollerers and yellers demanding you vote for and support the fuckers any way. I didn't hear a one of them saying we are going to tax your healthcare, we are going to mandate you buy private insurance with no public option. So who the hell are these Leaders afraid of? The answer is NO ONE. They are corporatist hacks. Out for the $$$$$ for themselves.

How about doing this a different way. STICK TO YOUR PRINCIPLES AND MAKE YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS DO THE SAME.


To blame Martha Coakley and make her the fall guy for the Leadership of the Democratic Party is wrong. She is not, it is our party leadership that has screwed us, not Martha Coakley. She was against healthcare reform until the party twisted her arm and she started sliding in the polls. This election is a referendum on healthcare, nothing else. So sit on that and just think about it, ok. You will see the same old playbook used time and time again throughout 2010. It's time to wake up to reality.


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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:33 AM
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1. Its up to the voters - if people want the republican in the seat more than a democrat
than clearly the republican candiate has a more palatable message and the dems may be out of touch.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:33 AM
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2. Its up to the voters - if people want the republican in the seat more than a democrat
than clearly the republican candiate has a more palatable message and the dems may be out of touch.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:36 AM
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3. Why not work to make sure the Republicans don't get a huge victory?
Here is a good thread that provides links to donate and/or phone bank for Martha

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=106x33906
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:40 AM
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5. Why don't you start holding the Party's feet to the fire for progressive values?
That would go so much further, instead of being a rubberstamper.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:47 AM
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7. The time for that is the primaries. Now is the election and it's not good to let the GOP win
Edited on Fri Jan-15-10 09:48 AM by NJmaverick
Don't give the GOP a senate seat for the next 6 years, as I can assure you they will be much less progressive than any Democrat.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:49 AM
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8. I don't want them to win, but don't you try to dismiss the angst out there.
I Coakley loses it is no ones fault but the leaderships. Can you please speak to that?



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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:40 AM
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4. why'd she get the nomination to begin with?
there didn't really seem to be a primary...was she picked by Rahm and Co.?
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:44 AM
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6. Mike Capuano was for the healthcare bill until it was hurting him then
he decided he would go against it.

He ran in the primary for those who do not know. He lost to Coakley.

http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/rep-michael-capuano-first-for-the-health-care-bill-now-against-it.php
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:56 AM
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9. I haven't followed the Coakley story very closely, but it seems very similar
to what happened to Creigh Deeds in VA.
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