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Fri Jan-15-10 10:08 AM
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Has anyone read MORTON HALPERIN's 1992 book, "Self Determination in the New World Order"? |
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Edited on Fri Jan-15-10 10:15 AM by blm
------------------- Product Description Examining the dynamic movements for self-determination that are erupting around the world, this book considers the right and wisdom of intervention to support or oppose such movements and proposes policy guidance for the US government, particularly the criteria for support groups seeking self-determination for political recognition and for non-forcible and forcible interventions. -------------------
Sounds like the set up for PNAC and it's position of interventionism that includes military force, but, I haven't read the book yet.
Any DUers read this book?
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Fri Jan-15-10 01:38 PM
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1. Interesting....was hoping some poli-sci folks would've read it in school. |
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Fri Jan-15-10 01:40 PM
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2. LOL....I'll take that as a 'no, haven't read it" |
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Fri Jan-15-10 01:41 PM
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3. I haven't read it, but it sounds pretty interesting. |
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Fri Jan-15-10 01:44 PM
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4. The 'support groups' got my attention because GOP relies on those to push their wars. Like Chalabi |
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Edited on Fri Jan-15-10 01:44 PM by blm
wasn't HE supposed to be part of a support group from Iraq allegedly begging for the US to intervene?
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Fri Jan-15-10 01:48 PM
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5. Yep. #1 rule about interventions: Never ever trust expats. |
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Edited on Fri Jan-15-10 01:49 PM by anonymous171
France got involved in Vietnam because they trusted the words of an embattled Vietnamese monarch who wanted to rule the country (although he wasn't really an "expat.")
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Fri Jan-15-10 03:18 PM
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7. You can definitely feel the 'public being set up' vibe in the book's description. |
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Of course, back in 1992 few would have realized it, especially since Halperin was being sold to us as a 'thoughtful progressive' on foreign policy.
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Fri Jan-15-10 03:52 PM
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9. Yes, he makes the horrible, horrible argument that we should use the UN... |
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...as a mechanism for dispute resolution. Like it's supposed to be used.
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Fri Jan-15-10 04:22 PM
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10. That isn't the worrisome part to me. It's the advocating for military intervention |
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Fri Jan-15-10 04:29 PM
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11. But he's specifically not advocating unilateral military intervention. |
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It's also worth noting that most of the time when he's talking about military intervention he's talking about multilateral peacekeeping forces, not invasions.
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Fri Jan-15-10 05:00 PM
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12. He said US should act unilaterally if it sees fit. |
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Edited on Fri Jan-15-10 05:20 PM by blm
I read a few articles on this book since I posted this morning.
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Fri Jan-15-10 02:03 PM
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6. Wasn't he enthralled of Ayn Rand? |
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Fri Jan-15-10 03:46 PM
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8. Not sure....though it certainly seems alot of these DC elite are or have been Randians. |
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