If Conservatism Wins, America Is DONE

[KingOfLostSouls]

I'm just gonna put this right out there. If conservatives manage to come back to power, for whatever reason, America is done.


finished. ended. sayonara. taken out back and put down.


Our leaders made a gigantic blunder with health care, whether we like it or not, and we underestimated how truly evil and hateful conservatives are. These people have no conscience, they have no hearts, they have no sense of shame.


Bill Clinton said it best in 2004 during the presidential election. these people love power and they know how to get it. They have a complicit media, and a brainwashed electorate that is there not to think for themselves, but to do as they are told. Frank Shaffer has been warning us so much of the deadliness of the conservative movement, in his numerous breath taking, truth telling sessions with rachel maddow. And if for some reason the historic seat of Ted Kennedy is lost, we must be vigilant.

we rested on our hands and our laurels without realizing that conservatives are not in it for one election. they are an evil army determined to bring this country to its knees. How many conservative economists cite Chile under Pinochet as the ultimate dream land of the free market? WAKE UP! That is what they want for America.


Mark my words, if conservatives get back to power, this country is over. Kiss everything goodbye. These people believe in Joseph McCarthy, they support Dick Cheney, and they believe Scott Roeder is a hero for committing first degree murder. These people nod their heads when their lord on the radio tells them to let people die and suffer in Haiti and laugh about it. They don't want to be your friend. They don't want to hear your voice. They don't want your vote. They want to grind you under their heal and make this into a Conservative Paradise, somewhere between Pinochet's Chile and a Southern Baptist version of Saudi Arabia.


If conservatism wins, America dies.

[Taverner]

1. "conservative economists cite Chile under Pinochet as the ultimate dream land of the free market"

Indeed - that IS their dream...Death Caravans and everything...

[Sebastian Doyle]

2. While everything you say is correct

we can no longer pretend that "conservatism" is limited to the Republican party. The health care fiasco proves beyond all reasonable doubt how deep the infiltration is into our own party. As does the warmongering that has continued for the better part of a decade. :evilfrown:

[midnight]

3. Sad but true..

[elocs]

4. Well, what we need to do is to elect a Democratic President and large majorities in Congress.

Maybe that would work. Probably not.

I know if this were a Bush 3rd term and Republicans had these majorities that Democrats do now, they would be mopping up and taking no prisoners.

[Political Heretic]

9. lol

[ThomWV]

5. Another way to say it is if they come back the looting will resume, at an even faster pace.

[David Zephyr]

6. Conservatism began winning the day FDR died.

It's been chip, chip, chip ever since that day.

With a very few notable exceptions:

Brown vs the Board of Education (U.S. Supreme Court)

Roe vs Wade (U.S. Supreme Court)

The creation of Medicare (Lyndon Johnson)

The Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act (Lyndon Johnson)

Lowering the voting age (Richard Nixon)

The creation of the EPA (Richard Nixon)

[FormerDittoHead]

17. +1000. n/t

[Joe the Liberal]

7. I agree, this country won't survive another conservative/republican regime.....

Even now we have a conservative government with Obama but it's just republican-lite/centrist. Republicans are so far to the right that it's off the scale, they pulled the democrats to the right too.

[Political Heretic]

8. I hate to break it to you, but "conservatism" has already won.

The spectrum of what we call politics in the United States runs from conservative to fanatical conservative. There is no true left in national politics, save for a handful of powerless figures that are constantly mocked and ridiculed.

Both national Democrats politicians and Republican politicians are doing just fine and driving this country into the ground. The notion that somehow all we have to worry about is not making sure "conservatives" (by which the OP means Republicans, ignoring the fact that the entirety of democratic national leadership and most national democratic elected representatives are "conservative" (by the rest of the worlds definition) win again completely missed the severity of our national crisis.

Both the Democratic part and the Republicans Party are only willing to operate within the parameters of our basic "status quo" system - operating inside the parameters of elite consensus. Democrats are willing to push slightly toward the leftish side of those boarders, while Republicans are willing to push toward the rigtish side of those boarders.

No one is questioning the boarders themselves. No one is challenging our failed, broken system itself. And consequently, no one is doing anything to change the course of our government toward eventual collapse.

Conservatism has won. It's infected the Democratic Party. It dominates the Republican Party. And the propaganda of conservatism is so pervasive, that most in society call conservative positions "liberal" or "extreme."

That's mission accomplished for the financial elite who benefit exponentially from this system.

[arcadian]

21. I said the exact same thing at dinner tonight.

"There is no true left in national politics, save for a handful of powerless figures that are constantly mocked and ridiculed."

We seem to be having this same conversation at dinner over and over.

[timeforpeace]

10. Conservatism won, and then it lost again. And so on, as Kurt Vonnegut would say

[xchrom]

11. Conservatism IS winning.

You just face a lot duers saying it
ain't so.

[Zoeisright]

12. Glad to recommend to the Greatest Page!

You're absolutely right.

[treestar]

13. What do you mean by "die?" or "done?"

I call BS and hysteria. 1. they won't get back in again, 2. even if they do, it will be temporary as usual.

[crazyjoe]

14. seems to me we're done already.

[H2O Man]

15. R.I.P. Van Winkle

[Mari333]

16. shit, its DONE now as far as Im concerned. nt

[Atticus]

18. I'm beginning to wonder if it hasn't already won. Check out this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7476333

[Hannah Bell]

19. In Washington state, one of those conservative policy centers just opened a branch office

in eastern wash. Which isn't very populated, but is rather conservative.

I fear the object is to drum up "populist" activism.

[Tim01]

20. It's corporatists, that are killing us, not conservatives.

We would be mostly OK with either dems or repubs in charge, and rotating back and forth.But the corporations are now in control of both parties, AND the media. The corporations are solidly in charge of the whole show at this point.