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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:06 PM
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Manufacturing Consent: Dem Bush non-impeachers propagandize, "channel collective good will" on Haiti
Edited on Sat Jan-16-10 11:16 PM by omega minimo
Wow. The Bush apologists wouldn't recognize propaganda if Big Brother dropped a catapult load of snakes to bite them on the ass while their head was in the sand.

This is how it's done folks: wake up and smell the burning flesh. Ronald Reagan and CIA Bush were not impeached and their top military criminal, Ollie North was crowned a hero. This allows the victors to rewrite history to suit themselves and fool the future, as Dubya has been busy fixin' to do at his pResidential Lieberry in Texas.

Maybe it was during that process, that CIA Bush found Dubya picking his nose and reading comic books and realized "Holy Shit! He and Boss Cheney weren't impeached and we can lie in the memoirs and history books, but this boy's a fuckin' nimrod and everybody hates him. Time for damage control."

CIA Bush already had his cozy, hand holding charity work with Big Bill Clinton. Helped CIA Bush with public perception of his lizard like behavior and wife's homicidal comments after Hurricane Katrina. A light bulb goes off. Let's get Junior out in front of the cameras to pretend that he cares. Perception management uber alles.

We'll call it the Bush Clinton Haiti fund!! Those poor suckers buried alive or dead in Haiti will be the perfect cover. All those dumb Dems who didn't have the balls to stop us when Reagan/Bush should have been impeached or we stole two elections or Dubya/Cheney should have been impeached, will all fall for it. Stupid fuckers.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/01/16/clinton-bush-haiti-fund
http://clintonbushhaitifund.org/index.php

Support the Earthquake Recovery Efforts in Haiti

On January 12, a magnitude 7.0 earthquake struck Haiti just outside the capital city of Port-au-Prince. The devastation – in lives lost, property destroyed, and families displaced – is immense. At the request of President Obama, we are partnering to help the Haitian people reclaim their country and rebuild their lives.

Our immediate priority is to save lives. The critical needs in Haiti are great, but they are also simple: food, water, shelter, and first-aid supplies. The best way concerned citizens can help is to donate funds that will go directly to supplying these material needs. Through the Clinton Bush Haiti Fund, we will work to provide immediate relief and long-term support to earthquake survivors. We will channel the collective goodwill around the globe to help the people of Haiti rebuild their cities, their neighborhoods, and their families.

President William J. Clinton 
President George W. Bush

Bush Fails Democracy in Haiti
Editorial
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0303-07.htm

How Bush-Cheney Policy Screwed Haiti
— By James Ridgeway| Wed Jan. 13, 2010 9:00 AM PST
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/01/us-policy-helped-keep-haiti-chaos

In the wake of the devastating earthquake, American eyes are again turned toward Haiti—something that only seems to happen when yet another disaster strikes, and never during the daily chaos and misery that plague the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. I’ve spent a good deal of time in Haiti, reporting first on the repression under the Duvaliers, then on the rise of Jean-Bertrand Aristide's popular movement, and then on the 1991 military coup that brought him down. I was there during the period of the 1994 military intervention that restored Aristide to power.

US interest in the country seemed to wane with the departure of American troops, and in the aftermath of September 11 and the Bush administration's numerous adventures around the world, Haiti returned to its usual state of invisibility in Western eyes. Few people noticed a remarkable report that appeared in the New York Times in 2006, based in part on the analysis of former ambassador Brian Dean Curran, showing how US policy helped to destabalize Haiti in the years leading up to 2004, when Aristide was again forced out by armed rebels under an accused death squad leader.


"Now look, O, that was the worst part, a few more photo ops and a dinner or two and we'll send Doofus back to his farm to chill. Got it?"
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M155Y_A1CH Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:15 PM
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1. So does Bush have some kind of growth...
on his back, or is that some nasty bug in his jacket?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:18 PM
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2. Stop politicizing war crimes!
:rofl:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:20 PM
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5. !
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:23 PM
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6. LOL
:rofl: stop humanizing homicidal space lizards!!!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:18 PM
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3. I see it a little different than you
Edited on Sat Jan-16-10 11:25 PM by nadinbrzezinski
this is about ... the elites in that sense to give themselves cover.

As far as the people of the US... the left who will not forget, well, I have not forgotten Reagan and his escapades over Iran-Contra, and neither have you.

The Right who otherwise would never give money, on ideological reasons just might, operative word, they see George as a traitor to the cause, so this confirms that. Most Americans who don't remember last week, let alone the last eight years of Bush Chenney... will give some money, maybe, and go back to American Idol.

If anything it may actually isolate junior more.

And yes this is more than just cynical on my part.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:28 PM
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8. yes, they are the elites and yes, they are giving themselves cover
and yes, I can understand how people would be disgusted by W's pretense.

I am disgusted and baffled at the DU apologists for his feeble attempt -- and this soon -- to escape his own legacy. It's disgusting and so are those who criticize other Dems for reacting to it. Dubya should have the good goddamned sense to hide out for a bit longer.

Like the saying goes, "If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention."
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:33 PM
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12. If he raises money
to a point I get the POLITICAL decision.

That does not mean I think Bush is all but a pretty face... where did I leave my gameboy idiot is not going to do much... and brutally honest... the reaction here was identical to FR for different reasons. So... it's backfired already.

Only the mushy middle who don't remember last week are left to give some money because a former president told them... what he was the one over the last eight years? And he did what? "don't bother me, I'm eating," to quote the burger commercial.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:35 PM
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15. I don't understand the logic of needing to use Dubya as a marketing tool
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:45 PM
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24. This is the thinking
Clinton appeals to the democrats, and progressives... bush appeals to the conservatives.

And the democrats will not listen to W, because quite frankly he is radioactive, while the conservatives will not listen to Clinton because he is radioactive.

There is some reality to this... but this is mostly inside the beltway thinking.

They do not realize that W is seen as a traitor by the same extreme right he is s'posed to appeal to.

That is where the political decision came from, and also from the tradition of tapping on former presidents by current ones during disasters.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:49 PM
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27. Maybe they should change it to tapping all the lobbyists and banksters instead
:bounce:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:54 PM
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31. Maybe but I just told you where the thinking came from
Edited on Sat Jan-16-10 11:55 PM by nadinbrzezinski
Me... I think it already failed for the reasons stated.

Some folks who are progressives will stay away because Bush is involved, and MOST conservatives will stay away because Bush is involved.

And the irony will be missed by the Inside the Beltway thinkers.

Reality is they are starting to raise money now... well, from that pesky experience in disaster relief most of the money that will be raised already has.

People are starting to tune out and move on.

Me, I know how this works so next month will budget more money, and the month after that... to give to an NGO, and trust me, not the ARC... I have mi issues with them.

That said I forgot mostly they will also be working with heads of state... so in that sense it will work.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:09 AM
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41. Interesting and thank you for your insight
This event raises the issue/spectacle of who has what/how-much to give .... including the spectacle of what used to be called Philanthropy and the need to coddle the criminal, if necessary.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:54 AM
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61. Well Baby Doc Duvalier is giving money
I don't know what is worst... Baby Doc after he did what he did to Haiti... or W... different scales... same shit.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:56 PM
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33. "I call you, my base".--- Geroge W. Bush.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:10 AM
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42. Nutshell
Edited on Sun Jan-17-10 12:10 AM by omega minimo
Spot on. So wise. EF :yourock:

Ain't got no cash, can we go sit in a sand letter :spray: :hug:
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:29 PM
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9. I see it as blunting Rushturd's effect.
Limbaugh is actively discouraging donations among his listeners. The thing is, a lot of those people still revere GWB, weird as that seems. Since Bush is an openly born again evangelical Christian, I think he has more credibility on this issue than Rush. If he's out there saying "you should donate to help the Haitians", they will.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:51 PM
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28. He's what?!!
Rilly? :wow: what a sick fuck
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:18 PM
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4. Ya know what? I care about the people of Haiti right now.
If getting Dumbya on board gets more money and resources to save lives in Haiti, I'm okay with it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:27 PM
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7. Obama had to ask him, that's the custom.
But seriously, when has that little murderous twit ever added value to anything? It's not gonna happen.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:34 PM
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14. Ok I apologize. Is that "the custom"? Zat why CIA Bush and Big Bill kiss on the lips?
:shrug:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:38 PM
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17. Eeww. I missed that. Thank Gawd.
Maybe it's like the Mafia. Just when you think you're out, they kiss you back in.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:31 PM
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11. That's part of the problem, HK, It doesn't.
"If getting Dumbya on board gets more money and resources to save lives in Haiti, I'm okay with it."

How is that even a thing? Who says anyone needs his ugly face on the matter? Really? We all care about as much as its humanly possibly to care. Is his sick face somehow a marketing asset worth the insult it presents? No. It's to benefit HIM and his legacy. Which is a LIE.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:36 PM
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16. But, like it or not, he has a following.
His "haves and have mores" base and conservative Christians who (still) view him as their leader. He can get big checks from his rich friends and blunt the effect of Rush Limbaugh, who is actively discouraging conservative Americans from contributing to relief efforts.

Seriously, Haiti needs as much help as we can get to it, RIGHT NOW. If Dumbya can convince a sizable percentage of Rush listeners to ignore him and contribute to relief efforts, I am okay with that.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:39 PM
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19. From your fingertips to their insane check writing tentacles
Edited on Sat Jan-16-10 11:40 PM by omega minimo
:thumbsup:

I hear you. Too bad on DU there can't be some meeting ground of This Is Fucking Outrageous and If If Helps That's What Matters.

The benefit to HIM and his legacy is still completely disgusting. Which doesn't mean we don't want his hearltess fans to send $$$$.
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:30 PM
Original message
deleted, double posted, n/t
Edited on Sat Jan-16-10 11:47 PM by EmeraldCityGrl
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:47 PM
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25. he did not say "send money" he said "send cash"...he was very crude and
unbefitting of a former president (sorry can't capitalize the title in this instance),
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:53 PM
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30. not a surprise.
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:06 AM
Response to Reply #30
38. yep, and he still makes me so angry inside, so repulsed and ah
fuck it he's such a waste of skin...:puke:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:12 AM
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45. I didn't hate him
Edited on Sun Jan-17-10 12:12 AM by omega minimo
I hated Reagan though and this whole continuum of the legacy and the lies and the kicking sand over realtiy to create false history as we watch is :puke:
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:26 AM
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54. I don't hate him either. I just want his testicles to shrivel up and his body
Edited on Sun Jan-17-10 12:27 AM by arthritisR_US
to rot, that's all.
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:30 PM
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10. Bush looked defeated today.
He was obviously uncomfortable in the presence of Clinton and Obama. When he spoke there was residual sarcasm
aimed at the audience. That comment about "don't send blankets or water, send money." In other words, "I don't
want to be here so just send some money and let's get this the fuck over with." Maybe Bushy Boy has been reading
"the internets" and it's dawned on his pathetic ass that EVERYONE hates him. His base hates him. Watching him
squirm for a while might be the only satisfaction I'll ever get.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:33 PM
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13. Well there's that.
Edited on Sat Jan-16-10 11:37 PM by omega minimo
Someone else has an OP up with different photos, asking for captions. In one, W looks pissed off as you're describing, like he always looked.


Guess which one is the homcicial maniac?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:40 PM
Response to Reply #10
20. President Fredo. I don't remember which DUer coined that
Edited on Sat Jan-16-10 11:42 PM by EFerrari
especially after the name change, but it's so true.

ETA: It was marnieworld! And she was right!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:39 PM
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18. George asking rich white Republicans for money for poor, black foreigners?
That's entertainment.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:41 PM
Response to Reply #18
21. no smilie for
:wrysmileatclevercleverness: Thanks
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:41 PM
Response to Reply #18
22. Yep. Unless Barbara has more of Neil's projects she wants to shove down
some throats.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:47 PM
Response to Reply #22
26. I don't think they let Babs out in public anymore.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:52 PM
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29. Well that one crazy eye probably climbed halfway up her head, the way W's is starting to.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #26
34. The only thing worse than being a Bush would be
to grow old surrounded by Bushes. :scared:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:13 AM
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46. !!
maybe why he was always out cutting "brush'
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:08 AM
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40. got to love the fucking irony...but I do hope it works. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:43 PM
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:02 AM
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36. why give a rat's ass about rec or not? People really care about Haiti right
now and history be damned and I agree with them. Just get the help out there immediately and if that means using the little prick, so be it. Right now the ends are more important than the means. I think that is where the unrec's are at, jmo.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:07 AM
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39. Help us understand how "the little prick" helps?
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:10 AM
Response to Reply #39
43. I'm really hoping he can open the pockets of his racist followers. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:11 AM
Response to Reply #36
44. And that's incredibly myopic. The means always matter.
The means always dictate the ends.

That is the history of Haiti.

There is no folding in a Bush and then being surprised that he found one more way to fuck Haiti. There just isn't. Bookmark this post. I sincerely feel that certain of the outcome.
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:18 AM
Response to Reply #44
47. I too am worried about a Shock Doctrine coming into play here because it sure
as hell did after the Tsunami and Katrina. However, there are people suffering and the little prick has NEVER helped a soul in his life and I sure as hell hope he can help some now. I too have my dithers about it all but I hope.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:19 AM
Response to Reply #47
49. That murderous criminal aside, it was good to see some stuff
get to the people today, wasn't it?
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:29 AM
Response to Reply #49
56. ya it was, let's keep keen eyes on the months/years ahead. n/t
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:18 AM
Response to Reply #44
48. These various answers help sort it out
And remind how philanthropy and charities have changed, been politicized.

For me and others, the proximity to the unaddressed crimes of Bushco X2 -- esp. since the nation had been destroyed and we are living it now every day -- and the Reagan/Iran/Contra connection with CIA Bush are too close, too spread out over the 3 decades of policies that destroyed our nation ............


.............................................


And as you say in your post.... 'Mark these words.............'
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:25 AM
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53. I appreciate the hope DUers express about funds this individual can raise.
DU may be too full of decent people who can't imagine the universe of corruption packed into that bandy little body.

Unless I've missed the fundraiser the freepers put on after his call for cash, the funds he knows how to raise are corporate funds that come with nooses. John Perkins could speak to this better.

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #53
57. "DU may be too full of decent people who can't imagine the universe of corruption packed into that"
"DU may be too full of decent people who can't imagine the universe of corruption packed into that bandy little body"

LOL. There's that. I found the attacks today, though by some "decent people" against other DUers for rightfully reacting to this criminal's appearance and philanthropic legitimacy at this moment, to be reprehensible.
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #57
59. yep, he's a criminal, pig, and slime of the earth. But if for this moment if he can help to raise
funds for these people, so be it.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:54 AM
Response to Reply #59
60. And "if for this moment" it was more convenient to ignore the urgency of impeachment
Edited on Sun Jan-17-10 01:05 AM by omega minimo
investigations, "so be it."

This is the beginning of the end. There will be no accountability, there will be this whitewashiing, there will be the history rewritten and lies told and there will be FUTURE AMERICANS AND CITIZENS OF THIS PLANET WHO WILL SUFFER MORE OF THE SAME AND WORSE BECAUSE WE ARE A NATION OF BRAINWASHED SAPS.
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 01:03 AM
Response to Reply #60
62. NOPE! That's not what I said. Do not conflate the two. He should be held for his crimes and
so should his cabinet but it would seem that is not the way of your government.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 01:08 AM
Response to Reply #62
63. I am not criticizing your post. Accountability will not happen and "for the moment"
behavior is one reason why. Your post resonated with the OP and why his appearance/legitimacy at this time and in this way is so offensive to some of us. For good reason, that other DUers today chose to attack with absurd vitriol and certitude.


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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:05 AM
Response to Reply #23
37. I UnReccd it because I found its thesis unpersuasive, and lacking in credible (posted) evidence.
Post an OP that I can Rec, and I'll Rec it.

Contra your expressed sentiments in this reply toward those who have UnRecc'd this OP, I wish you nothing but a good evening and all the best. :thumbsup:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:20 AM
Response to Reply #37
50. You are uninformed.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:27 AM
Response to Reply #50
55. Perhaps. I tend to think the opposite, of course. Nevertheless, have a good one. n/t.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:36 AM
Response to Reply #55
58. Even if the logistics were not to your standards
if you were informed you would have understood the "evidence" as presented.

If you were not petty, you would have been more interested in the information and discussion than some feeble game of oneupsmanship.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:01 AM
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64. oh look the apologistas are winning the game of mob rule!!
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:55 PM
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32. Bush was still smirking.
But if he can get his base to donate, go for it. Then try him for war crimes.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-16-10 11:59 PM
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35. His "base" hates black people, poor people and foreigners.
Edited on Sat Jan-16-10 11:59 PM by EFerrari
I don't think we should bet the farm on this outcome.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:22 AM
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52. Maybe the code Limbaugh the Hut has been spewing is:
if you DON"T donate, the opportunities for Disaster Capitalism are that much greater.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 12:21 AM
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51. Dear Betsy Ross what planet are you living on?
"Then try him for war crimes."

:wow: RU serious?
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 08:56 PM
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65. K&(Invisible)R

:kick:
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