FDL Says "Grow The F**k Up! Get Coakley Elected!" - DailyKos

[WillyT]

FDL says "Grow the F**k Up! Get Coakley Elected!"
by GreenSooner
Mon Jan 18, 2010 at 11:11:15 AM PST

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In case there's any doubt that it really is just a few frustrated outliers in the progressive blogosphere who are not supporting Coakley in this election, please go on over to the infamous Firedoglake and check out the latest frontpage post:

Just so there’s absolutely no ambiguity, let me get something out of the way: Democrats and progressives and anyone who doesn’t want crazy people running the country should get off their asses tomorrow and vote early and often for Coakley.

“Punishing” the Democratic Party by helping elect a Bush/Cheney Republican is the equivalent of cutting off your head to spite your nose hairs.

Grow the fuck up, please.

I point this out not to let FDL off the hook for a lot of things for which they have been justifiably criticized, such as Jane Hamsher's attempted alliance with Grover Norquist.

Nor do I want to pass over the fact that the post I just quoted goes on to (entirely appropriately, IMO) criticize the White House's own relationship to Wall Street and the insurance companies.

But the frequently heard refrain around these parts that FDL supports Brown (or, in one version, is actually asking people to work for his election) or that Jane Hamsher is a teabagger is not only false, but unnecessarily divisive.

There are very real differences among progressives over a whole host of issues, from the current version of the HCR bill to what our relationship to the Democratic Party should be.

But other than a small handful of folks, many of whom are trolls, there is simply no disagreement about working for Coakley's victory.

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Link: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/1/18/826465/-FDL-says-Grow-the-F**k-Up!-Get-Coakley-Elected!

FDL Link: http://firedoglake.com/2010/01/18/obama-stumping-for-coakley-picks-a-fight-with-the-right-villains-a-little-too-late/

:shrug:

[Davis_X_Machina]

1. I do not care what they say...

..I care what they do.

[Political Heretic]

3. I don't care what they say either, but not for the same reasons you don't care.

[Hello_Kitty]

4. I care more about progressive Dems caving in to Lieberman and Nelson but YMMV

Neither Hamsher nor Norquist have a vote in Congress.

[jgraz]

22. Um, that's also them just saying stuff.

:eyes:

[tridim]

2. Such a cute CYA one day before the election.

FDL, you really suck. Nothing more needs to be said.

[SoCalDem]

amen n/t

[Political Heretic]

5. FDL strikes me as a bit unprofessional and swaying in the breeze

But whatever.

[JDPriestly]

14. I love FDL. They speak truth to power. You decide.

I expect a Democratic victory tomorrow in Massachusetts regardless of the polls.

But I also expect a wake-up call for President Obama. He needs to fire Rahm Emmanuel, Tim Geithner, Larry Summers, Ben Bernanke and I'll add Arne Duncan for good measure.

Most important, the Senate needs to kick Lieberman out of his post at the top of the Homeland Security committee. He harmed President Obama more than any other individual in this country. He has no business in the Democratic caucus. Hateful, jealous man, that's what he is.

[laughingliberal]

20. An ironic thread the other night had FDL showing PhRMA threatening to kill HCR

due to the President coming out in favor of decreasing the time biotechs could maintain exclusivity and keep generics off the market. One poster kept saying, if the link says " LiardogFake the story is 100% bullshit." Well, the story was not 100% bullshit and I put up several other links that to sites reporting the same story and thought it odd that FDL was accused of lying about a story where the president was standing up to the industry to lower drug costs. But continue on, killing the messenger is always the correct approach.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=7477849

[WillyT]

21. Yep... I Never Realized How Many 12 Year Olds Were On This Board...

Who'd a thunk it?

:shrug:

:hi:

[Qutzupalotl]

6. "vote early and often." Yeah, thanks for that help.

FDL=look at me, I'm still relevant!

[Scarsdale Vibe]

7. They're walking back their role in the disillusionment of gullible Democrats.

Now that they see what happens when you lie constantly about Democratic legislation in order to make yourself look ideologically pure, they're going to disavow their involvement in the weakening of Democratic electoral chances. Fuck them, and fuck all the stupid morons who bought their negative bullshit.

[Hello_Kitty]

10. Oh yes. The irrelevant left suddenly becomes relevant

When you need a scapegoat for something.

Because nothing is ever the fault of the Rahmbots and the DLC.

[WillyT]

11. psst...

I don't think some of these guys understand how a political blog works.

Different people theorizing about what's happening, what it means, and what should be done about it...

And it cracks me up, that some of the same people here who tell us that we over estimate the power of DU, go completely bonkers when another online political site has the temerity to post the unthinkable on the web.

You know: It's not polite to point out that the Emperor is sans clothing...

:shrug:

[Hello_Kitty]

12. Exactly. It's people, mostly of like minds, having a conversation.

Pretty much everyone here, and on FDL and Daily Kos and the others, supports universal health coverage. We just disagree about how to acheive it.

[WillyT]

13. Yep...

:hi:

[Marr]

25. You talk about gullible Democrats and you've got a Harry Reid avatar.

I love it when you ironicalize.

[Jennicut]

8. Hamsher seems to be an attention lover. But at least she sees the error in not

voting or supporting Coakley.

[jpak]

9. Fuck FDL - I'm stayin' home and teaching Rahm Emmanuel and the DLC a lesson!

But then again, I don't live in Mass.

:evilgrin:

[JVS]

15. Now the FDL haters will vote for Brown out of spite.

[dionysus]

16. they just spent how long PROMOTING that mindset? what is this, 9th inning ass covering?

[LostInAnomie]

17. Wow, after weeks of talking shit about Obama, the Democratic Party, etc., and doing...

... everything they can to demoralize and splinter then Left, they pay some token lip service and expect all to be forgiven.

Fuck FDL.

[David Zephyr]

18. Any real progressive would want Brown to lose.

As I've posted here ad infinitum, Brown is a monster.

The fact that our base is demoralized is something we ignore at our own peril.

Criticizing the President's wasted first year is one thing, wishing for rightwing (and dangerous) Republicans to win seats in the House or Senate is a whole other thing.

The problem here is that some can not make that distinction in their hero worship of Obama.

This race is close because of the mis-steps by Obama, his lack of focus on job creation and ending the mortgage crisis along with playing footsie and sell-out to the mega-corps.

[WillyT]

19. Spot-Fucking-On David, Exactly !!!

"The fact that our base is demoralized is something we ignore at our own peril."

"The problem here is that some can not make that distinction in their hero worship of Obama."

Yep, yep, and yep...

:shrug:

:hi:

[Grand Taurean]

23. We should all want to kick Brown's ass to the curb

[WillyT]

24. Just For You, Frenchie...

:hi:

[sendero]

26. I hope Coakley wins..

... but if she doesn't, I know where the blame lies, and it's not with "progressives".