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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:00 PM
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John Travolta Says He'll Airlift Scientologist "Volunteer Ministers" to Help Haiti Quake Victims
John Travolta Says He'll Airlift Scientologist "Volunteer Ministers" to Help Earthquake Victims in Haiti

Posted by Byard Duncan, AlterNet at 5:50 PM on January 18, 2010.

Too bad they don't know what the hell they're doing.




John Travolta has announced that he will fly "volunteer ministers" from the Church of Scientology to Haiti, to help victims of the country’s devastating earthquake. "I hope that inspires others as well," Travolta told WYTV, an Ohio-based ABC affiliate. "It's needed."

Crisis Scientology like what Travolta’s doing is no new phenomenon. In the past, Scientologists have helped set up "detoxification" programs where firefighters work out, rest in saunas and take supplements that supposedly cleanse them of PCBs; And in the wake of 9/11, Scientologists were allowed to stay with workers from the Red Cross long after all other religious affiliations were told to leave. One former firefighter even told the New York Times, “It’s actually a pretty awesome program.”

Still, just how well these "healing" sessions work (if at all) is extremely unclear -- seemingly a question of "believing" or "not-believing." Witness a 2005 Washington Post story about Randy Meyers, a mechanic from Michigan and member of the Church of Scientology, who flew to India to help tsunami survivors (by touching them with a finger):

Auto mechanic as healer: Meyers does not need your affirmation. The team of 28 volunteer ministers in southern India is a crowded lot of confident self-actualizers. There is Iain Cochran, 31, who normally works as an accountant for a vitamin company in the United Kingdom, overseeing payroll and bill payment, now laboring to "restore communication with an ill or injured area of a being."


Rarely is straight-news copy lacquered in so much bitter sarcasm.

Gawker has the goods on the unorthodox concoction of healing methods utilized by volunteer ministers -- from “Locational Assists” (repeatedly directing someone’s attention at objects like chairs or buildings) to "Nerve Assists" (touching someone on the back to release what’s called a "standing wave" of trauma) to "Touch Assists" like those performed by Randy Meyers and friends in the Post story.

The whole guide for "Assists with Illnesses and Injuries" can be found here. Not included in Gawker’s coverage are other gems like how to make a drunk person sober in “a very few minutes” (here), or how to help an individual heal himself (According to Scientology, “Injury and illness are predisposed (made more likely to occur) by the spiritual state of the person. They are precipitated (brought on) by the being himself as a manifestation of his current spiritual condition. And they are prolonged (extended in time beyond normal limits) by any failure to fully handle the spiritual factors associated with them.”)

Critics would say that such a one-two punch of quack science and contrived, self-righteous piety seems right at home in the canon of Scientology. But try telling that to the true believers, who are likely airborne by now -- on Travolta's dime.


http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/145260/john_travolta_says_he%27ll_airlift_scientologist_%22volunteer_ministers%22_to_help_earthquake_victims_in_haiti/



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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:02 PM
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1. John owns his own 747 and has the license to fly it.
Hopefully though he won't be sending scientologists to set up "hospitals"..

:eyes:
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:54 PM
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15. Last I heard it was a B-707
I see "only" a Boeing 707 and a Gulfstream IV (?) in John's driveway.

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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:06 PM
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17. At some point I thought I had read that he had bought a B747 from Qantas
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/2323927/

This article says he owns one of each..

Wouldn't it be cheaper for him to do cocaine like a normal movie star?

:rofl:
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:11 PM
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20. "an ex-Australian Boeing 707-138 airliner. The plane bears the name Jett Clipper Ella"
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:31 PM
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25. He Is Type Certified To Fly as a Captian on a 747....



......he doesn't own a 747...
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:43 PM
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71. No, it's really a galactic space cruiser stolen from the evil lord Xenu
It just LOOKS like a Boeing 707. :evilgrin:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:02 PM
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2. they have suffered enough
don't force that piece of shit "religion" on them :puke:
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:05 PM
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5. missionaries got there decades ahead of travolta.
religion has been forced on them for years.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:27 PM
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12. Took the words right out of my mouth. n/t
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:03 PM
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3. Hopefully, the airport won't let them land. n/t
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:04 PM
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4. Better to send homeopaths - Haitians need water
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 05:28 AM
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45. omg, one more laugh for the night
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:17 AM
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51. O. J. Suess--tears.
:rofl:
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:06 PM
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6. God damn. Does every shyster religion have to look...
... to take advantage of disasters as a way to con people into believing their shit?

Why not do good for the sake of doing good? Why try to use it as leverage?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:07 PM
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10. Sent the Raelians. At least people will get laid and have a good time. n/t
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tango-tee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 01:21 AM
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43. Bingo!
Scientology con artists wandering around spreading their brand of B.S. is just about the last thing Haitians need right now.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:06 PM
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7. During Katrina, they were put in charge of kennels
Don't get me wrong: the kennels need assistance in the aftermath of a disaster. But they put them there so they wouldn't be out getting in the way of the relief efforts for the people on the ground. They had to move them back to the kennels because they were getting in the way and proselytizing more than they were helping.

So they actually put them to good use without causing any problems.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:59 AM
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40. Philosophy, is talk on a cereal box - Religion, is a smile on a dog.........
Sorry. Your post gave me the image of a bunch of Scientologists trying to convert a bunch of captive canines..........
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:53 AM
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49. I'm not aware of too many things....
...but I know that I have been in Love with Edie Brickell and her amazing music (props to the New Bohemians as well) for 20 years.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:06 PM
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8. John Travolta, shut the fuck up.
Isn't that what Scientology teaches you should do when someone is traumatized, anyway?

Don't wanna give them engrams, you know.

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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:07 PM
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9. Oh FFS. What a freakin' whackjob. I hope air traffic control in Haiti tells them to go suck eggs.
Freakin' notjobs will only suck up resources and get in the way. Worse than a waste of time.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:25 PM
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11. Now he needs to STFU.
He ought to fly down a dozen surgical teams.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:28 PM
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13. Note to John: Hait (and the rest of us) have our own spirtituality. We don't need "conversion." n/t
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:50 PM
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14. a plane full of ...........
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:07 PM
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18. DUZY ALERT!
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:04 PM
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16. Great, now all the Thetans in my head are bouncing around and having an orgy.
The rest of me, however, cares not one iota.

:shrug:
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:09 PM
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19. Lucky Haitians.
All those delicious delicious Scientologists.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:12 PM
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21. He's going to send volunteer ministers? To do what?
If you send help to disaster victims you send doctors, nurses, and rescue specialists. Travolta doesn't have a clue about the needs of victims.

I try to avoid watching any movie or show with Travolta.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:12 PM
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22. Can't he just call Xenu and the Galactic Federation?
:shrug:
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:59 AM
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63. Travolta Can't but Tom Cruise Could
LOL - thanks for the laugh.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:15 PM
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23. He flew tons of aid and food to Katrina victims
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4218450.stm

I guess if you are part of the 'wrong' religion, some here don't think you should go help out if it's needed.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 01:07 AM
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41. He needs to keep that cornball shit to himself and stay out of the way
If he wants to help he should donate cash to people on the ground who are addressing things the people of Haiti ACTUALLY NEED, like water, antibiotics, and food - not that stupid "volunteer ministers" Scientology crap.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 01:19 AM
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42. NOLA did not have the airport scarcity Haiti does.
With New Orleans & Southern Mississippi if you landed close enough to the trouble spots, a bunch of trucks could just pull up, load up whatever you brought, and get the useful parts of it to the people who needed it. With Haiti, that kind of freelancing would mean that for every plane load of celebrity Theta counselors that lands means that another plane full of food, water, and medical supplies will not have the chance to land.

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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:05 PM
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65. I think people in cults should stay the fuck home.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:16 PM
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24. Good luck landing at the Airport John. And If you can, somebody needs to be fired.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:54 PM
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30. He will just have to park it and wait for his slot
It may happen in a year or so
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:25 AM
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52. +1. nt
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:32 PM
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26. No, no John...please don't do that.
The people of Haiti need food, drink, medicine, doctors, and shelter--not to have their Thetan levels tested.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:39 PM
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27. I don't know much about Scientology but if he is an example of
what it teaches...it cant be too bad...I admire him and the good example he sets.

Gin

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Hatchling Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:25 AM
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46. It is a dangerous cult.
I have personally had experience with them. "Not good" is an understatement.

Take a look at this website. It contains the truth about $cientology by many of it's whistle-blowers and victims.

http://www.xenu.net/
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:05 AM
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59. +1
People don't understand how crazy and dangerous this cult is.
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:06 PM
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66. Scientologists steal the life savings of their members and sometimes murder them.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:59 PM
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32. E-meters will consume valuable power
For Christ's sake (just a metaphor), just donate money and leave the your cult our of this.

Haiti is about 85% Cathoilic. They've made their spiritual choices,
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PacerLJ35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:49 PM
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28. John should load his airplane up with food and water...
Those people are only going to get in the way. Maybe I'm being negative...
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:52 PM
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29. Here's a link to the story without Alternet's take on it
http://www.etonline.com/news/2010/01/82987/index.html

ET spoke with John Travolta at Australia Week's LA Black Tie Dinner, where he told us his plans to help Haiti.

"I have arranged for a plane to take down some volunteer ministers and some supplies and some medics," John says. "My church has also arranged for 80 medics and 33 volunteers to go down ."

"I hope that inspires others as well," he adds. "It's needed."

************
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PacerLJ35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:54 PM
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31. A better take
Although I still think the volunteer ministers are taking up space on his airplane.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:27 AM
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53. Scientologists disdain medicine--how the eff does that help? nt
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 11:02 PM
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33. They invented sidewinder missles for a reason.
This is it.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 11:03 PM
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34. great since the don't believe in medicine.....
:puke: :puke: :puke:

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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 11:04 PM
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35. Haven't those people suffered enough?
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:13 AM
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36. Awesome. They can cleanse "Thetans" and do "inventory"
This story is the best laugh I had all day
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:18 AM
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37. He could as well heal them playing reruns of "Welcome Back, Kotter"
'quack science and contrived, self-righteous piety'

You said it.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:36 AM
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38. He needs to keep his airplane in the fucking garage and out of the
way of other airplanes bringing in people and things that actually help the quake victims. Volunteer Scientology ministers...give me a fucking break Barbarino. Sit down and shut the fuck up. Asshole.

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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:47 AM
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39. Ew... the last thing Haiti needs right now is those motherfuckers down there.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 01:29 AM
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44. Just what they need more lying full of shit ministers (as they ALL are).
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:31 AM
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47. He's made a contract with Thetan(s).
:o
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:38 AM
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48. I hope they all bring extra sandwiches
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postulater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 08:56 AM
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50. Thanks for the post.
It sure brings out the true colors of a lot of people on this board.

And it gave me a chance to add a dozen or so to my ignore list.
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:30 AM
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54. What a waste of time and money.
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 09:32 AM by blueamy66
Why doesn't he just give some cash to some MDs so that they can get there? Or buy some water or food?

Geesh, what a total waste of time and money.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:33 AM
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55. Publicity. Simple as that.
Both for him and his cult.
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:33 AM
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56. That's just sad then.
Does anyone give out of the goodness of their hearts anymore?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:40 AM
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57. I do--and I'm pretty certain you do too.
Heck, I don't make enough that the tax breakk helps much.

We may not get our names on the 'nets, but we really do count! :)

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:35 AM
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58. Call me crazy, but...
somehow I don't see the Voodoo Priests loving themselves some scientologists.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:06 AM
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60. Airdrop. Cool. n/t
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perro azul Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:17 AM
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61. Maybe he could deliver these "solar powered bibles"
heard this report on NPR this morning and thought they were making it up but it seems to be real.
Just what starving, injured, homeless people need. :grr:
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2010/01/us-faith-group-sends-hundreds-of-solar-powered-bibles-to-haiti/1
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:50 AM
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62. How about food and water, asshole?
What a jerk.
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:04 PM
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64. I didnt think Haitians had any money for Scientologists to steal?
Weird.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:35 PM
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69. There will be millions upon millions of aid money to steal.
:(
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:09 PM
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67. Any help is good help, at this point.
Thanks, John!
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 02:38 PM
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70. You're kidding, right?
nt
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 12:14 PM
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68. What a waste of good runway space
:eyes:
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