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27inCali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:30 PM
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So the Left is going to punish Obama by electing Brown?
that seems to be the message that I am getting from a lot of people here.


I dare anyone to question me on the main issues of the day if they question the sincerity or depth of my Liberalness because I want this statement to have some weight.

THE LEFT HAS COMPLETELY LOST ME. COMPLETELY.

I just cannot be in that crowd. I'm not enough of a child anymore, in fact I am a father. 60 votes to push through financial reforms and renewable energy may seem small potatoes to you, easy to throw away so that you can make your little statement, but I'm not ready to hand a shithole world to my little one for your statement. And fuck you for wanting to hand such a pile of shit to the next generation over a meaningless statement, the Left have revealed themselves as every bit as myopic and selfish as the right and seem just as obsessed with marginalizing themselves as a political force.


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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:31 PM
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1. I sure hope that's not what's happening.
If it is, it means a bunch of people have gone batshit crazy.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:39 PM
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2. The left won't but the center might.
Face it, the party has been playing to the false center that exists between their conservatives and ours while selling the true political center out.

No party can do that and expect to win.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:40 PM
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3. Electing Brown sounds more like a punishment for Massachusetts.
And for the people who voted for him.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:42 PM
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4. 28% vote GOP / 33% vote DEM - Faithfully
Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 09:43 PM by FreakinDJ
the rest are up for grabs

Hence the ever elusive "Swing Voter"
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:46 PM
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5. No, most likely it will be independents and Repubs
who vote for Brown. The left will vote for Coakley in Massachusetts.

Most lefties online don't live here and can't affect this race.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:46 PM
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6. Not really the right wording.
Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 09:48 PM by YOY
Perhaps "feel disparaged by a lack of political representation and therefore are jaded and cynical to the point of voting." That would be it.

But that's not even the situation in a nutshell very well IMHO...it's more like playing ot the middle that is the problem.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:49 PM
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7. "So the Left is going to punish Obama by electing Brown?"
....no, if brown-streak wins tomorrow it will be because corporate Dems and repugs want it that way....corporate Dems will try to blame the Left, but we all know who's created this situation....
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 09:52 PM
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8. Some have already started here.
Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 09:53 PM by YOY
It's really cute. Sadly, they own this...they just don't want to own up to this.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:01 PM
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9. The Heartbreak of Myopia™. There are others besides The Left voting tomorrow.
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:03 PM
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10. Awww.
Fucking waa.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:10 PM
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11. Ummmm......
I don't get to vote in tomorrow's election.

But I will eventually get to vote in Dem primaries. And I'm hoping to see a progressive candidate on the ballot. If I don't then I may not vote in either the primaries or the general election.

I will not support a candidate who does not protect and/or advance my needs and interests. I don't give a dman what party label they wear.

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:11 PM
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12. That would be part of the politcal dynamic that the administration and congress has created
And not the "left's doing,"

Pretty simple, really (and it's happened several times before over the past 20 years.

Bernie Sanders lays it out:

Now, I may not be the greatest political strategist in the world, but I don't know how you win elections by ignoring the ideas of the progressives who have worked hardest at the grassroots level for your victories, or the trade unions that have provided significant financial support and door-to-door volunteers for Democratic campaigns. I don't know how you succeed politically when you insult women, who far more than men consistently provide you with great margins of support. How do you preserve a big majority in Congress when you fail to be aggressive in protecting the interests of seniors, a huge voting bloc in off-presidential-year elections? In other words, it should not surprise anyone that the Democrats are in serious trouble.

More: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x129626

In other words- if you alienate, take for granted and insult your key constituencies in rather public ways- and create the appearance of an alliance with such popular groups as health insurers, PhARMA and the banksters, those constituencies aren't going to be all fired up to GOTV for the party's candidates.

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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:27 PM
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18. Bernie's the best! We need 99 others like him. nt
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:14 PM
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13. That they want to makes them deserve your comments
Edited on Mon Jan-18-10 10:14 PM by treestar
Though they are clearly wrong. If a state like mass. elects a republican, they lose more than the Democrats do.

The ones that crow over it are republican trolls, plain and simple. There's no way a real progressive would be anything but horrified at this guy in the Senate.

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MrsCorleone Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:21 PM
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14. Sadly, it looks as if the republicorps have successfully turned some of
us against our own. Hardly surprising, though, given the ease at which many on DU & other liberal blogs fell so quickly Corp funded think tank tactics.

What's so discouraging is that all those critical issues aside from healthcare will now become especially hard-won.
This is great news for the big multinationals & devastating to the people.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:25 PM
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15. it's not "the left" that is the problem
it's how "the left" has been treated
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:25 PM
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16. This is common place around the world.
The right votes in every election looking for slow but steady changes.
If the left does NOT get what they immediately, they revolt by protesting the election.
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:27 PM
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17. You really have no fucking clue what you are spouting off about.
The Liberals and the far left are the ones that WILL be voting for her tommorrow. The ones voting for Brown are the repukes and the Indies.

Before you are so quick to demonize those on your fucking side, get your god damn facts straight.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:28 PM
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19. hilarious how now they care what we do and think
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:31 PM
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20. Yup
Not a fucking one of them has ANY idea what the hell is going on in Mass. They just spew more divisive shit.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:42 PM
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24. Haaaa ha haaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha haaaaaa haaa ha haaa haaa ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaa!
Welcome back to DU!

:rofl:
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:48 PM
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27. What the hell are you talking about.
This place is getting crazier by the minute.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:37 PM
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21. Sure.. add insult to injury.
That'll send the progressives running back into the fold.

:eyes:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:38 PM
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22. don't believe everything you hear
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:42 PM
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23. There are times when I question the motivation behind some of the attacks
Ranting is fine from time to time, however there are times when a commitment to 'getting things done' is required IMO.
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Atticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:44 PM
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25. Can you give some examples of where you "got that" here on DU?
Not saying you didn't see it----just that I haven't.

I am certainly and unapologetically "left". I do not live in MA, but if I did, I'd be voting for Coakley and making calls for her.

That "the left" is a monolithic group of smug nihilists is, perhaps, convenient for those looking for scapegoats, but it simply has no basis in fact.

I don't think "the Left" lost you. I think you are your definition of "liberal" and I am mine. No reason we can't work together to defeat Republicans.

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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-18-10 10:46 PM
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26. Stop stereotyping just because you are frustrated
I'm an unabashed leftist and I definitely support Coakley over Brown. Be careful about who you accept as "leftist", because they may actually be anything but. In fact, there is a good chance they are nothing but an agent provocateur, which is a common tactic by the wingnuts when it comes to poisoning public sentiment.
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