Tony_FLADEM
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Mon Jan-18-10 11:59 PM
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I'm thinking when Obama went to Massachusetts last Sunday he should have put it on the line |
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regarding health care. He should have told the people of Massachusetts your vote will decide the fate of health care reform and we will not have this chance again for another 15 years.
People who are reluctant to vote for Martha Coakley because they don't like her would have.
Anyways, it's too late for that now.
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Skittles
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Tue Jan-19-10 12:06 AM
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he shouldn't even bring up that disaster
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FBaggins
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Tue Jan-19-10 12:06 AM
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2. Both candidates have made that clear. |
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Brown said that he would be the 41st vote to filibuster the current legislation, Coakley has made clear that she would support it.
The problem is that the number of people who oppose the current legislation because it doesn't go nearly far enough... plus the people who don't want anything at all... significantly outnumber the people who would fight for the current bill.
IOW... the issue has been hurting her.
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Tue Jan-19-10 12:10 AM
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3. Ugh! Isn't that awful? |
FBaggins
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Tue Jan-19-10 12:14 AM
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4. That all depends on which side of the fence they fall. |
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What if twice as many voters are ticked off that Democrats have failed to do what we sent them to Washington to do? What if this becomes clear and Democrats wake up?
A 59-41 majority is still an historically strong position. November doesn't HAVE to be as bad as it now looks.
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Tue Jan-19-10 02:21 AM
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5. A 59-41 majority with Republicans filibustering everything is a prescription to shut down... |
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the government.
It is a strong majority only if you assume that Republicans want anything done. From all evidence, they do not.
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Tue Jan-19-10 07:05 AM
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The can't block everything without getting kicked out of office this November.
That is... assuming that what we attempt is what the voting public wants.
Keep pushing unpopular legislation and they can filibuster till the cows come home and still win seats.
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Tue Jan-19-10 11:29 AM
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9. If nothing gets doen, Democrats are in power and will take the fall... |
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Tue Jan-19-10 07:45 AM
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And I'm getting the feeling that more and more people are fine with this bill failing...while they're not happy with the status quo, they are rejecting all the horsetrading and game playing that has turned this process into a farce. The right never was on board as their overlords filled their heads with busting defecits, death panels and "socialized" medicine. When single payer never got a chance and public option went down the tubes in the Senate, that drew the ire of the left...and those in the middle polarized; mostly against the bill. In many ways Brown's vote will be a reflection of that...especially among independents.
There's more at stake than healthcare...it's the entire Obama "agenda" as it currently stands. A Coakley loss will chill some Democrats...especially those in tough races who would prefer to do nothing and avoid controversy. It also emboldens not only the rushpublicans but those who claim to be in the middle (including several Democratic Senators) who now will veer further right to save their seats. I wish I could paint a rosier picture, but experience says that politicians only do what's expedient...especially in an election year.
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Tue Jan-19-10 08:40 AM
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8. ummm...... Mass already has univeral healthcare. |
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why would telling them that taxing them more so the rest of the country can get it too intice them to vote for coakley? I believe that brown is winning BECAUSE of the HCR bill.
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