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Tue Jan-19-10 09:03 PM
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So if Brown wins with 52%, I think we should be allowed to pass HCR with 52+1 Senators |
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Fair is fair, no?
Or does Democracy only count for elections and Republican Senate votes?
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Tue Jan-19-10 09:06 PM
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1. We've always been allowed to pass HCR with 52 Senators |
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This 60 vote claim is a bullshit excuse.
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Tue Jan-19-10 09:06 PM
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We don't want to set that precedent for the Pukes when they have the majority. Bad strategy.
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Tue Jan-19-10 09:07 PM
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6. Republicans passed their crap laws with only 50 votes. |
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Tue Jan-19-10 09:08 PM
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7. I usually don't pick on newbies, but are you insane? |
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51 votes IS the "precedent".
Republicans used it when they had the majority. For some inexplicable reason, Dems refuse to.
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Tue Jan-19-10 09:12 PM
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11. The reason isn't inexplicable.. |
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The Republicans block EVERYTHING. Short of changing the rules (which we can't do either for the same reason) there's nothing we can do about it.
The Senate is very broken.
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Tue Jan-19-10 09:52 PM
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13. Using Reconciliation in a Puke filibuster |
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for budget items not legislative. Think of the implications and the shit they can pass if they gain majority.
You are sweet but I'm a big girl and love the discussion. I don't feel picked on. Really.
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Tue Jan-19-10 10:04 PM
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14. How many times did the Repubs pass legislation without a Dem filibuster? |
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The whole "filibuster" argument is just stuff. It's a threat that we ALLOW to be hung over our heads. It's a boogeyman.
...and I respect that you hold your ground.
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Tue Jan-19-10 09:09 PM
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9. What good did the filibuster do us anyway when we were in the minority? |
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It's a good strategy because getting it passed will help us in coming elections.
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Tue Jan-19-10 09:06 PM
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3. I wasn't aware that we needed more than 51. |
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Tue Jan-19-10 09:06 PM
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4. You must refer ot the Senate rules. |
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Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 09:10 PM by Ozymanithrax
As long as any legislation needs 60 votes, that legislation will be raped with a curling iron.
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Tue Jan-19-10 09:07 PM
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Tue Jan-19-10 09:08 PM
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8. No, we should Kill the Bill |
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it's cool to kill the bill
yup
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Tue Jan-19-10 09:09 PM
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I need affordable health care and so do millions of others who are even poorer than me.
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Tue Jan-19-10 09:13 PM
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12. Thanks for the unrecs teabaggers. |
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