Time for Kaine and Rahm to go...NOW!

[Ken Burch]

Tonight's result discredits centrism and timidity forever. It discredits "pro-business Democrats" forever. It discredits those who bash our base forever.

It discredits those who lead our party but don't actually want it to win forever.

Tim Kaine...you're now a total failure. You can never recover. You have nothing to offer. Go and never come back.

Same for you, Rahm. You never did anything for us and your way led to this loss, a loss that should never have happened.

No more losers...no more cowards...no more corporate appeasers...

Tonight is the death of the idea that centrism works.

[Neecy]

1. Kaine?

Oh, right! I almost forgot who he is, because you never see him or hear from him.

[Dinger]

2. K & R (nt)

[SemiCharmedQuark]

3. So Progressives voted for Brown?

Because there was a very high turnout. Staying home wasn't an issue.

[waiting for hope]

4. I think there were more independents voting .. n/t

[Ken Burch]

5. No, progressives didn't.

But our candidate lost for being bland, timid, and gutless.

[ncteechur]

6. tim kaine is a sorry excuse for a DNC chair what the fuck is wrong with him

[tavalon]

7. The only time we had a DNC chair worth anything

was when we had Howard Dean.

[tnlefty]

14. +100,000!

And the party has crapped all over him.

[madrchsod]

8. yes rahm needs to go along with kaine...but obama won`t do it.

[shadesofgray]

9. K&R

[jpak]

10. Yeah Ben - if only Obama had been progressive enough, Mass. would have gone Blue

are you series?

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[KittyWampus]

16. independents broke for brown. Wake up and stop peddling that nonsense.

[Ken Burch]

17. Which means WHAT?

It doesn't argue for MORE centrism. It shows that centrism isn't the way to GET independents. The way to get them and hold them is to follow Reagan's model(not his ideology, the model)that is, to stand firm for our principles and show leadership by doing so.

What lost tonight was the myth of "bipartisanship". No Republican will EVER work with Obama in Congress, thus, there is no reason to ever try working with them again.

[rudy23]

25. Yeah, thanks to Rahm and Kaine! Wasn't their centrist ideology supposed to woo independents?

Looks like it's doing the opposite. Nobody likes a weasel, and the DLC platform is too weasely for the average American. We can sense it.

[Ken Burch]

27. Yes...and I'm not Ben(it's childish that you keep mixing me up with the other guy)

A candidate who used fight the power rhetoric, day in and day out, would have brought out the vote needed to win, and would have held the independents by looking like a champion of the people instead of Dukakis in a pantsuit.

[StevieM]

12. I doubt Rahm will go. Tim Kaine might. (eom)

[StevieM]

13. Dupe post. Self-delete (eom)

[NorthCarolina]

15. While your assessment is the correct one, it is not the one

that will be sold to the masses. Rather, the DLC will push the line that the election is a clear indication that Democrats had moved too far to the left. We will all know that's not the truth of course, but the MSM will inevitably push this DLC deception. We'll no doubt be treated to extensive deconstruction of the election by Harold Ford, Rahm Emmanuel, Evan Bayh, Lieberman, etc. on your favorite cable news station for many weeks to come.

[Smashcut]

18. Yup - yesterday.

K/R

[progressoid]

19. Heck of a job Timmy.

:banghead:

[NuttyFluffers]

20. i support the Harry S. Truman truism, so i support this.

when people ask for tea and you give 'em a choice between black coffee or black coffee with a smile, then don't be surprised if they sullenly take the black coffee w/o the smile -- and don't expect a tip, either.

[cayanne]

21. Hell Yes on both nt

[Vidar]

22. K&R.

[autorank]

23. There's no success like failure

You think the insiders will be impacted by any of this. No way. There's a place for Martha, for Timmy
Keane, for all of the uber minions.

It's all good if your on the take and the take is legal!

But I agree and kick and recommend brother!

[DisgustedInMN]

24. It's sad..

.. listening to the DLCers now trying to plot "oh no, how can we get anything done?" when it's them that screwed the pooch when they had the "magic 60." Worse yet, is that they think we're gullible enough to buy their bull shit. Rahm, Kaine, Geitner, et al, should be handed their walking papers first thing this morning.

[Cherchez la Femme]

26. Where did this myth of Centrism working begin?

In modern terminology, of course.

It used to be standing upon principles which won us elections
but more importantly made this country great.
How? By Progress. Hence Progressives... the antithesis of Centrism.

I know Clinton triangulated, but I never heard the word 'Centrist' used towards him; at least not as an identifier.

It sounds like a DLC brain fart that sounded good, to push their misguided, backwards agenda; but is that where this modern myth originated?

[jillan]

28. What did the DNC do to help Coakley? I asked that before the election and never got an answer.

Was Kaine not aware there was an important election in Mass?