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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:05 PM
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there is one very important aspect to tonight that is being overlooked
Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 10:06 PM by fascisthunter
we lost a seat in the Senate, a seat which was held by a liberal democrat for many years. Don't believe for an instant that anyone on the left is happy to "Tell you so!" It's a political reality that this campaign was underfunded and badly campaigned. And if this election was that important, then why wasn't more done by the party itself?

just something to chew on
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:07 PM
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1. Agree. Do you think they just thought it would be an easy win? And if so,
why -- the Republicans never slack off like that. Look at how they handled this. We should have been going toe-to-toe.


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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:18 AM
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9. I have theories in regard to how little Coakley did for her campaign....
but I really think the health bill, and our current foreign policy put her in a very hard spot. She was in a tough spot to prove herself to mass voters as someone who is trustworthy. Unfortunately many Mass residence know the Dems no longer fight for the little guy, so no many liberals and progressives went out to vote, independents went to Brown shifting the balance in his favor.

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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:07 PM
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2. No, it was her.
Brown had what, 60 campaign appearances and she had 19.
She did not put in the time and she did not walk the walk.

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:08 PM
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3. There's blame to go all around. They (Dems) should have MADE her pick up the
pace.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:20 PM
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4. I thought people running for such a position had to be
responsible enough to do it themselves - they are not children.
Did the RNC have to make Brown run well?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:30 PM
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8. I think the RNC sure jumped on board and helped organize, helped get $$$,
helped stir up the frenzy. They always do.

She could have had more support, and that may have helped.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:20 PM
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5. Democrats work hardest at screwing things up.
It's what they do best. (I'm talking about elected Democrats, not the people.)

This will continue until they get their shit together.

Pelosi could have put impeachment on the table.

Reid could have told Lieberman to go fuck himself, then stripped him of everything.

But no, because what they did instead has turned out so much better for America... :eyes:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:21 PM
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6. no, her campaign was extremely well funded.. that's just ridiculous.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 10:23 PM
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7. The same sort of complacency...
.... that enables Obama to think he can talk from the center-left and govern from the center-right and nobody will notice apparently infected this race.

The Dems will have to STRUGGLE MIGHTILY to maintain good majorities after the midterms.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:26 AM
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10. they will have to prove themselves to their own base, forget about moderates and republicans,
they can't win without their base, the base and the party leadership are have two diametrically opposite ideals. It's almost the same as expecting the GOP and Democratic Party to merge into one united ideology. It's just not going to happen.

I as a liberal want Wall Street out of washington DC and DC out of Wall Street. The only business this government should have with Wall Street is to make sure the investors and banks are playing by the rules. No institution should be too big to fail... we have anti-monopoly laws that preveneted this shit from ever happening, but the free market retards would rather pretend they are for a free market while making the rules as they go along to warped the market in their favor. They want to game the system and call it Free Market ideology. I'm sure every serial criminal out there can justify their crimes too.
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