Kaleva
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Tue Jan-19-10 10:34 PM
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What do DUers from Mass. have to say about this election? |
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Would love to hear comments and opinions from DUers who are residents of Massachusetts.
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Tue Jan-19-10 10:37 PM
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2012 Senate race begins tomorrow. Every progressive or Democratic group in the Commonwealth has a target to focus on for 3 years.
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Tue Jan-19-10 10:38 PM
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2. Not from there any more, but was most of my life... |
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Edited on Tue Jan-19-10 10:38 PM by HughMoran
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Oh, and kick this fellow's ass for the next 2 years, then put a Dem back in there.
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Tue Jan-19-10 10:39 PM
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We had a shitty candidate, who ran a shitty campaign. She thought she won the seat when she won the Primary. Then she switched from being against the very unpopular HCR to being FOR it, because again, she thought she was fucking safe. Add in corrupt democrats, a lack luster Governor (so far), loss of jobs, higher taxes and fees, people are angry here.
People were angry, frustrated and the fuckwad in a pickup truck portrayed himself as a moderate Republican. They did vote FOR Brown, they voted AGAINST the Democrats and especially this HCR bill.
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Tue Jan-19-10 10:41 PM
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Tue Jan-19-10 10:41 PM
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5. The people in Mass. voted against themselves! |
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Tue Jan-19-10 10:44 PM
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8. Please don't forget that almost half of the voters voted for Coakley |
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And many on this site worked hard to try and get her elected.
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Wed Jan-20-10 05:42 PM
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14. I don't doubt that but over half were deluded and dismayed. America needs a good |
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education about how and why this Country is in a mess. This IMHO is what needs to be the focus and what gets out. There are a lot of unawares out there.
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Tue Jan-19-10 10:45 PM
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9. Would like to hear your opinion as to why the election turned out the way it did. |
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Tue Jan-19-10 10:55 PM
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The single biggest beef I've heard... and I've heard it a lot. Coakley ran a huge number of negative ads. The fact that what was being said was true did not really matter. Over the last week or so the TV has been flooded, and I mean flooded with negative ads, three, four in a row sometimes. At the same time, Browns ads were simply pointing out the negative ads against him and that he would fight the estamblishment... nobody seemed to care what the hell that might mean. With a fifth of the TV ads, he made her look really bad. Any conversation I heard about the election centered around the ads and how everyone was sick of them. Over the last week I bet I heard at least 2 dozen people say they were voting Brown just because of the ads. Fucked up.
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Tue Jan-19-10 10:44 PM
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7. People Are Tired Of The Bullshit |
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I spoke with a bunch of people at work today - a very-well educated group, most staunch Democrats - and most have had it with the business as usual. Obama and the Democratic Congress have been a bitter disappointment, we've seen little if any benefit from them in the year they've had power.
The fact that insurance and pharma lobbyists poured into our Commonwealth to save Coakley's bacon was also of interest - if the reform bill is so controlling over them, why are they trying to save it? I think we all know...
I voted for Coakley, but not with pleasure - I suspect that was the general feeling of Democrats here.
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Tue Jan-19-10 10:45 PM
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10. yup - she was a horrid candidate. |
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I keep thinking I've hit rock bottom in my frustration towards the party, today hit yet another low.
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Tue Jan-19-10 11:04 PM
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12. Here's why a Republican won... |
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I volunteered for get-out-the-vote calls on Sunday and here's some of what I heard and think:
1. Martha went negative and went at it hard. She should have seitched to a positive in the last week or so.
2. She didn't stump enough. Not nearly enough. She should have been out there at the Garden shaking hands instead going on vacation. For many reasons she ran a terrible campaign.
3. She just doesn't have that likability factor. She's a fine AG and I'm sure a fine person, but she's not a good candidate.
4. In teh last few weeks, all her ads were about Brown. Why he was the wrong choice. Her ads never focused on her and what she would bring to the table. She helped focus the race on Brown.
5. We are not a swing state and are not used to the crazy amounts of ads and robo calls. People lashed out at Martha for that -- blamed her for that.
6. Martha didn't lose this at the edges -- she didn't lose this be being too far to the left. She lost the center in this vote.
7. She focused too much on health care and not enough of financial reform, even though health care is not what lost this for her.
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Tue Jan-19-10 11:11 PM
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13. Extremely pissed but not defeated |
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Coakley ran a shitty campaign. What more can be said. I was hoping against all odds that she would win, but I had prepared myself for her defeat. It's still hard to accept when it actually happens though.
As I mentioned in another thread, what gives me some peace of mind is knowing that greasy Scott is nothing more than a placeholder until we MA democrats can identify a candidate who is willing to campaign and do all the other things it takes to do right by Ted. I'm all about making sure Scott returns to his hometown of Wrentham come 2012.
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