Fineman on KO Just Talked About the Mistake of Turning the HCR Bill Over to Baucus

[laughingliberal]

He irritates me a lot of the time but I have to agree on that. We'd have a bill by now if we hadn't wasted so much time on that gang of six thugs. Just my opinion.

[msongs]

1. obama could have submitted an HCR reform bill but chose to let congress do it. nt

[dkf]

2. Tweety was talking about how lbj passed civil rights. They bypassed certain committees and

Bigot Dixiecrats and used Uncommon procedures. We need a good hcr bill. Democratic senators have proven they've got a few too many shills to get us one the normal way.

[laughingliberal]

3. That was LBJ but I appreciate your point. nt

[dkf]

5. Yeah I forgot which initials they were. They are all before my time

[UTUSN]

4. Duh, Howie?!1 n/t

[Journeyman]

6. Well, there were some who wanted to dick around playing chess . . .

Maybe someday it'll be apparent that a game is best won by playing it. You can play it creatively but if you start playing something other than what's on the table you essentially concede.

[endless october]

7. Matt Taibbi called this months ago.

brilliant piece on HCR in Rolling Stone over the summer.

read it if you haven't yet. he called this watered down disaster of a bill months before it was even voted on.