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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:30 PM
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Democrats will never be strong unless they go back to their working class
roots and that means forming labor unions and belonging to labor unions. A lot of those tea baggers are just working class shlubs like many of us, but they don't have a strong union leadership to explain to them the nuts and bolts of politics and how not to vote against their own best interests. This is how we got our good Democrats in the past who were union backed.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:30 PM
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1. +1000
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:31 PM
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2. K&R
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:32 PM
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3. Yep. K&R
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:34 PM
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4. well, sounds like lots of blue collar white union guys voted for a white guy with a truck
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:35 PM
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6. a nude centerfold guy too
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:41 PM
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12. yes, but naked or not, he sure knows who pitched for the Red Sox!
alas, she WAS a terrible candidate. She could have educated herself at least on that much since sports is such a passion in Mass regardless of party affiliation...
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:38 PM
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9. Not that many hard working blue collars are union any more since Reagan went about
union busting and this was the reason the Republicans did it through him. They knew without the solidarity of union leadership pointing them in the right direction, they would follow the first politician with a shiny new truck or whatever was new and shiny that they promised them.
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canoeist52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:44 PM
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13. + finally someone that gets it. Suburban working class voted for
the next shiny thing that told them what they wanted to hear and that the democrats were coming for their wallets.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:40 PM
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11. They didn't want to be subjected to HCR's tax on health benefits
or have the IRS used as a collection agency for Big Insurance.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:48 PM
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17. the insrance tax is a silly option
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:34 PM
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5. exactly
I notice many of working class people - low income are solidly GOP aoround here. They basically vote against themselves but they they are none the wiser. We need to get them on board.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:44 PM
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14. Did many of them actually vote for Obama in 2008? This is usually not the
most color-blind segment of the population, sadly.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:46 PM
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16. Well, in my town, all the unions that are here (not many) backed Obama. n/t
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suzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:04 AM
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22. How many elections have Democrats spent trying to chase the working class
white vote that has been solidly GOP since the Reagan days?

How many times has that been successful?

Is there a reason to continue making the same mistake over and over?
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:35 PM
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7. Perfectly said. n/t
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:38 PM
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8. Just saying I am working for the Working Class and passing
Legislation which is not in their best interest is not eactly
on the level.

Continuously supporting Business Interests and often at the
expense of the working class is not very edifying.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:38 PM
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10. The only viable direction...
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:45 PM
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15. You're right. So Democrats will never be strong. Period.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:49 PM
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18. K&R from another devoted Hartmann listener!
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liberal_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:50 PM
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19. Dems definitely need to get back to their working class roots
I heard the vice chair of the DNC on Rachael Maddow saying that the democratic party needs to focus on regulating the banks. getting the banks to help working class people stay in their homes, and the dems need to work on getting those working class people back to work. Yeah well, we'll see. With so many dems taking money from the corporations I am going to have to see some serious working class policies being passed before the dems win me back. Just talking about it is not going to win votes. They have to actually start passing policies that help the working class and not the big corporations. The proof is in the voting record.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:04 AM
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21. This is why we need unions to push our Democrats into doing the right thing.
We need a united front of many of us. This is the principle of collective bargaining whether arguing for wages and rights from an employer or getting your elected representatives to work for you. Many united as one are far more effective than individuals trying to achieve the same goal.
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canoeist52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 11:51 PM
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20. Poor people get it that republicans don't work for the poor's interest.
Poor people have nothing to lose. The working poor still think they have something to lose. They believe they have a chance to make it big one day.
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suzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:06 AM
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23. At least someone gets it.
Thanks.
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cabluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 12:13 AM
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24. No hope, no vote. Bring America to its knees: vote Republican.
Drunks have to hit bottom. We are not there yet, it seems.
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